My Experience with Eclipse2 on a 5D

I originally posted in this thread, https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=280062 , about my experience with Eclipse2 on a 5D sensor. I tried using the Eclipse2 again with similar results, smears and residue from the Eclipse2 on the sensor. While I wouldn’t blindly recommend this, I was able to clean the smears by carefully breathing into the chamber to add condensing moisture on the sensor and gently wiping with a clean PecPad on the spatula.

I redid the test of a drop on a UV filter and there was some residue left after evaporating, it was just difficult to see on the clear filter and I may have missed it the first time I tried it. Repeating the test on an ND 0.9 filter left the same residue, just easier to see. Using a PecPad on the spatula as recommended for the sensor left the same smears and spots when the spatula was stopped. I'm convinced at this point that either the Eclipse2 is contaminated or it doesn't evaporate as cleanly as Eclipse. I have used the Copperhill method with original Eclipse on my 20D successfully in the past, smears and residue were never a problem.

Original Eclipse has been ordered and should arrive next Tuesday. I'll also try the evaporation test on the ND filter for comparison. I’ll post the results after my next cleaning attempt.

Jeff

jdkeck wrote in post #3457561
I originally posted in this thread, https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=280062 , about my experience with Eclipse2 on a 5D sensor. I tried using the Eclipse2 again with similar results, smears and residue from the Eclipse2 on the sensor. While I wouldn’t blindly recommend this, I was able to clean the smears by carefully breathing into the chamber to add condensing moisture on the sensor and gently wiping with a clean PecPad on the spatula.

I redid the test of a drop on a UV filter and there was some residue left after evaporating, it was just difficult to see on the clear filter and I may have missed it the first time I tried it. Repeating the test on an ND 0.9 filter left the same residue, just easier to see. Using a PecPad on the spatula as recommended for the sensor left the same smears and spots when the spatula was stopped. I'm convinced at this point that either the Eclipse2 is contaminated or it doesn't evaporate as cleanly as Eclipse. I have used the Copperhill method with original Eclipse on my 20D successfully in the past, smears and residue were never a problem.

Original Eclipse has been ordered and should arrive next Tuesday. I'll also try the evaporation test on the ND filter for comparison. I’ll post the results after my next cleaning attempt.

Jeff

Looking forward to seeing the results

Yeah I'd be interested in seeing the results also.

Me too. Interesting

I was just about to order some cleaning fluid since my rocket blower can't seem to clean my 30D sensor.

I don't want to wait (I want a clean sensor), but now I'm going to so I can see how your testing works out.

Isn't Eclipse E2 no longer recommended for the 5D sensor?

I have a 5D and clean my sensor with Eclipse 2 without problems using the Copperhill method. No residue.

Maybee your solution is contaminated???

Jean

kster wrote in post #3459808
Isn't Eclipse E2 no longer recommended for the 5D sensor?

PS has now changed their recommendation back to Eclipse for the 5D. I bought E2 when I first got my 5D (at the time, that was the recommended solution). PS says that if E2 isn't giving your problems, then you can continue to use it. Just as they said for the original eclipse on the 5D (back when E2 was just being introduced).

Interesting about the residue issues. Maybe environment has a lot to do with a solution being contaminated or something?? I haven't had problems using one swab and E2. Other people say they have to go through 8 swabs to get their 5D clean.....so it just seems that YMMV for any method

So much for a timely response to my original post, too busy using the camera to take pictures and not cleaning it .

I tried a drop of Eclipse from the fresh bottle on the ND0.9 filter. there was small ring after evaporating, noticeable but less than Eclipse2. Eclipse evaporates faster than Eclipse2. Using Eclipse with the Copperhill Method worked well. As usual, at least for me, it took several cleanings to get all the dust removed. This is viewing the sensor at f22. At f14, where I would normally shoot landscapes, the it would have been clear after the 2nd swabbing.

On one attempt, I had too much Eclipse on the PecPad. 3 drops instead of 2 - my error, sometimes the bottle sems to have mind of its own. That left some residue at the edges that was visible on the sensor as well as the image on the computer. I just mention this as a reminder that too much Eclipse can cause problems. The residue was easily removed with properly dampened PecPad.

The sensor is now clean and still scratch free.

Jeff

I've just got my 5D back from Canon, and my bank balance is £180 lighter, after wrecking the IR filter whilst wet cleaning with original Eclipse fluid and Photosol swabs.

I won't be using Eclipse or Eclipse2 again - its dry cleaning ( rocket blower and Arctic Butterfly ) only for me, plus the occasional trip to the local Canon dealer, where I'll let them wet clean it . . .

jdkeck wrote in post #3970987
On one attempt, I had too much Eclipse on the PecPad. The residue was easily removed with properly dampened PecPad.

Jeff

I thought the warremty was invalid if we use pecpads instead of sensor swabs? ( did I read that wrong?)

stevieboy378 wrote in post #3971892
I've just got my 5D back from Canon, and my bank balance is £180 lighter, after wrecking the IR filter whilst wet cleaning with original Eclipse fluid and Photosol swabs.

I won't be using Eclipse or Eclipse2 again - its dry cleaning ( rocket blower and Arctic Butterfly ) only for me, plus the occasional trip to the local Canon dealer, where I'll let them wet clean it . . .

What about PS guarantee? Did you do something to invalidate it or are you claiming?

I Simonius wrote in post #3972534
I thought the warremty was invalid if we use pecpads instead of sensor swabs? ( did I read that wrong?)

From the Copperhill Website,

"The "Copperhill" method uses PecPads, whereas the traditional method uses Sensor Swabs. If you can prove to us through a reputable 3rd party that the PecPad material was the sole cause of damaging your AA-filter, we will have it replaced at our expense. That's how confident we are in the safety of the Copperhill tools and regimen."

First page of their cleaning procedure.

I've used this procedure on my 20D and my 5D. The results are positive and ther hasn't been any sensor damage. When I said there was too much Eclipse of the PecPad, there wasn't enough to squeeze liquid out. The PecPad should just be damp enough pick up the dust particles, you're not wet mopping the floor . I've tried a dry PecPad on the swab and it didn't do anything except move particles around. At least it didn't do any damage .

Jeff

jdkeck wrote in post #3972778
From the Copperhill Website,

"The "Copperhill" method uses PecPads, whereas the traditional method uses Sensor Swabs. If you can prove to us through a reputable 3rd party that the PecPad material was the sole cause of damaging your AA-filter, we will have it replaced at our expense. That's how confident we are in the safety of the Copperhill tools and regimen."

Jeff

I was referringto the PS guarantee but if the poster was using copperhill then sure that's the one that matters

Dust Aid

Just bought, and used, the Dust-Aid system on my 5D. Easy, quick, dry, works as it says on the tin (literally)

Nigel

That is so weird. I haven't had that problem since I've been using the eclipse solution. Here is my process:
1-Rocket blower- to blow off any dust.
2-Eclipse and pads for doing my wet cleaning procedure.
3-Dust Aid- For any spots I missed and anything left by the sensor swab.
I haven't had any problems with this solution and it works for me all the time.