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Jun 07, 2004 01:14 |  #1

I have been shooting at 3200 ISO and there was a lot of noise but not as bad as I thought it would be....I did use neat image to take some out.

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Jun 07, 2004 01:34 |  #2

Nice shot but as always it's hard to have a idea about the noise level on a resized pic.

Is neat Image the best tool to remove noise ?

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Jun 07, 2004 01:39 |  #3

Not bad at all considering the ISO. If it means the difference between getting a shot and missing one then its worth knowing how to do it.

I have tried Neat Image and find it quite useful although it can take a couple of tries and some fiddling to get what you want. It is possible to take out grain without much detriment to the image but you can easily over do it and lose detail. So it can be a bit fiddly. However it is possible to get some pretty reasonable results and you can afford the fiddling time if you don't use high ISO very often. Plus of course the basic version is free, which is always a point in favour!




  
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Jun 07, 2004 01:41 |  #4

I have read a lot about Neat Image and Noise Ninja but I tried Neat Image and I like it. I notice a difference and it has a Photoshop CS plugin, that was a big factor for me buying it.

This is my first time shooting at a high ISO but it was a rainy day at the zoo and there was not light even with the flash, I had to shoot that high. I don't like shooting that high and hope I don't have to again. Even when I shoot dancers in low light with no flash I don't shoot that high.

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Jun 07, 2004 04:18 |  #5

What's the chance of getting a 800x600 full size crop with no noise removal?

With the noise removal that's looking pretty good though.


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Jun 07, 2004 09:31 |  #6

Can anybody give me more info on the Neat Image and or Noise Image programs.
I have PhotoShop 7.0

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Jun 07, 2004 09:40 |  #7

Brianbar wrote:
Can anybody give me more info on the Neat Image and or Noise Image programs.

http://www.neatimage.c​om/ (external link)

The Pro version also comes with a Photoshop Plugin as well as the standalone version.




  
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Jun 07, 2004 11:27 |  #8

I know this is somewhat unrelated to the subject at hand, but I took this shot in the very dim basement of the West Point US Military Academy museum. It was shot at f/2.8 (16-35L), 1/8 sec., ISO 1600, hand held. I gave it a light going-over with NeatImage, and no sharpening.

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Jun 07, 2004 12:41 |  #9

When properly exposed ISO1600 on the 10D and 300D is amazing.
I shot an entire diving session this wknd with my 300D at ISO1600.
I didnt even need to do any noise reduction since the images were exposed properly (or slightly over exposed which will reduce noise too).

Here is a 100% crop at ISO1600 (external link)

I used to use Neatimage, and it was awesome. However, Neatimage and most other NR (noise reduction) programs can produce a slight "cross hatch" patten on very noisy images (say you underexpose a high iso shot and later increase EC in software, or levels). I read this review (external link) of MANY NR programs, and he too concluded the same thing about all of the software, EXCEPT Noise Ninja. In fact, Noise Ninja won all the comparisons. So, I switched to Ninja and have never looked backed. It is amazing.
Although, now that I learned to slightly "expose to the right" on high iso images, I rarely ever use a NR program any more.


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Jun 08, 2004 13:00 |  #10

belmondo wrote:
I know this is somewhat unrelated to the subject at hand, but I took this shot in the very dim basement of the West Point US Military Academy museum. It was shot at f/2.8 (16-35L), 1/8 sec., ISO 1600, hand held. I gave it a light going-over with NeatImage, and no sharpening.

What type of tank is that? Looks great for 1600 and hand held to boot.


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