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How to rotate image w/o loss of picture quality and info

 
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Jun 08, 2004 03:22 |  #1

Hi,

How to rotate the image to vertical and maintain the picture quality and infomation?

Please help.


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Jun 08, 2004 03:36 |  #2

BreezeBrowser www.breezesys.com (external link) can do this.

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Jun 08, 2004 08:59 |  #3

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Jun 08, 2004 13:23 |  #4

in jpg you can use a freeware program called Irfanview. This will rotate and save it as a jpg without recompressing it.
It is a small fast viewer.

www.irfanview.com (external link)




  
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Jun 08, 2004 18:28 |  #5

I am shooting JPEG most of the time.
But wish to try RAW sometimes.

Thank you for the advice, I will try BreezeBrowser and InfarView.


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Jun 08, 2004 18:37 |  #6

I didn't even know a jpeg COULD ever be compromised when rotating!!
Now that would be a bizare feature for any programer to build in to their picture editor-like deliberate vandelism!! :evil:

I too vote for irfanview-not just for doing this but for superfast general viewing of practically ANY format images,even canon raw
An awsome little program




  
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Jun 08, 2004 19:44 |  #7

Has anyone considered converting to lossless TIFF before rotating?


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Jun 09, 2004 01:11 |  #8

After convert to TIFF, all the shooting information is gone.


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Jun 09, 2004 01:20 |  #9

All of the EXIF information is still in the RAW file.

Shoot RAW. Convert to TIF. Save the RAW file. Refine the TIF if necessary. Save the TIF. Downsize and convert to JPEG only if it must be published to the web, or convert to JPEG if it must be sent over email.

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Jun 09, 2004 06:15 |  #10

Liang wrote:
After convert to TIFF, all the shooting information is gone.

If you mean EXIF information, it is not lost. TIFF files can store EXIF info and it can be extracted if the application you're using supports that function. However, compressing a TIFF file (which does not degrade the image) may cause loss of the EXIF data. Some applications can't read compressed TIFFs because of patent issues (with the compression algorithm).

As far as I know, rotating a JPEG by 90, -90, or 180 does not degrade the image as long as the application does not save and re-open the image during rotation. In Photoshop, there is no degradation.


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Jun 09, 2004 07:41 |  #11

No Loss . .. .

The total No-Loss way is:

turn your monitor on it's side :lol:

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Jun 09, 2004 07:45 |  #12

rodbunn wrote:
The total No-Loss way is:

turn your monitor on it's side :lol:

Sorry, had to say it.

Rod

Option 2:

Lay down. :shock:

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Jun 13, 2004 05:47 |  #13

I tried IrfanView to rotate the image and save it.
I notice the file size is much smaller.
1.3mb after rotate become 380kb.
I think there should be a loss of picture quality.


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Jun 13, 2004 05:49 |  #14

The BreezeBrowser is working fine.
After rotating the file size remain the same.


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Jun 13, 2004 06:37 |  #15

So, is auto rotation in camera lossy? Should you turn the feature off and rotate only with an editing program to ensure quality? Thanks.


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