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Jul 10, 2007 06:23 |  #1

Just posted my first efforts with my new 400 /5.6 L here -
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=346521
I found it very frustrating trying to get a shutter speed low enough to freeze the planes but still blur the props. I presume that just comes with (panning) practise?




  
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Jul 10, 2007 06:35 |  #2

i was shooting 1/100 for the day on ISO100, smooth panning is the key..

altho' with the distance some of those aircraft got @ 400mm on my 1.6 crop 20D all i got was a face full of aircraft frame and not alot else.. although got a happy number of keepers :)


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Jul 10, 2007 08:17 |  #3

Panning practice, & a liberal use of the Delete key, in my case! :D


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Jul 10, 2007 08:35 |  #4

Bobster wrote in post #3517544 (external link)
i was shooting 1/100

Wow! I've got to get a steadier hand
I have binned 4 out of 5 at 1/ 200 ~1/400, and that's on a FF (5D)
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Jul 10, 2007 08:47 |  #5

Fine shots there Chris. I mainly used 1/250 (even on the F15 at one point. Oops) and am happy enough with the amount of blur. Going lower would have decimated my keeper rate.
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Jul 10, 2007 09:19 |  #6

if i had an IS lens, prolly would have shot much lower than 1/100 ;)


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Jul 10, 2007 09:24 |  #7

Bobster wrote in post #3518217 (external link)
if i had an IS lens, prolly would have shot much lower than 1/100 ;)

Guess I need to practise, I've got an IS lens. :(
Trouble is airshows are an expensive day out and I didn't want to come home with nothing, so its tempting to leave the shutter speed a bit higher.

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Jul 10, 2007 09:50 as a reply to  @ paul_g's post |  #8

Nice pictures.
For those who have the 400 /5.6 L I am just curious why you would choose that lens over a Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS USM ?
Wouldn't you want the flexibility of the zoom? Trying to decide which one to buy.Thanks


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Jul 10, 2007 10:01 |  #9

paul_g wrote in post #3518244 (external link)
Guess I need to practise, I've got an IS lens. :(
Trouble is airshows are an expensive day out and I didn't want to come home with nothing, so its tempting to leave the shutter speed a bit higher.

Paul

i haven't been to an airshow in 4 years! (shooting helo's around salisbury plain helps keep up the practice tho' ;) )

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Nice pictures.
For those who have the 400 /5.6 L I am just curious why you would choose that lens over a Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS USM ?
Wouldn't you want the flexibility of the zoom? Trying to decide which one to buy.Thanks

primes are sharper, also the 5.6 is cheaper than the 100-400IS :)


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Jul 10, 2007 10:03 as a reply to  @ kona77's post |  #10

i think its mainly practice, its only this year my prop aircraft stuff has started coming on, with my 400d and 500mm sigma obviously with no IS, it was just a case of finding the lenses sweet spot and practicing with panning, from legends ive got quite a few succesfull 1/100's, which i was pretty chuffed with...

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Jul 10, 2007 10:07 |  #11

kona77 wrote in post #3518389 (external link)
Nice pictures.
For those who have the 400 /5.6 L I am just curious why you would choose that lens over a Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS USM ?
Wouldn't you want the flexibility of the zoom? Trying to decide which one to buy.Thanks


Ahh, the trusty ancient dust-sucker! I'll get one when it's eventually updated to a two-touch.
Panning is difficult enough on it's own, let alone when trying to play the trombone at the same time :)




  
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Jul 10, 2007 10:34 |  #12

Guess I need to practise, I've got an IS lens.
Trouble is airshows are an expensive day out and I didn't want to come home with nothing, so its tempting to leave the shutter speed a bit higher.

Go out & play in traffic the week before? :D


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Jul 10, 2007 10:43 |  #13

PhotosGuy wrote in post #3518619 (external link)
Go out & play in traffic the week before? :D

something i find quite handy, and practiced before legends...

i have a small local airfield, few flying schools based there, grass strip ect...
i go up there and practice on the cessna's ect, i pretty much found out how low i could go in terms of shutter speeds before i lost quality...
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Jul 10, 2007 11:51 |  #14

Yeap, just practice,practice,prac​tice :)

Thats why in my free time I am always at the airport :)


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Jul 10, 2007 12:48 as a reply to  @ RCoulter's post |  #15

Thanks for the response everyone. I think I will borrow the 400mm to shoot a boat race from a helo this weekend. I will also have my 50mm and Canon 75-300 4-5.6 IS.
I will post them on Monday.
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