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POLL: "Which one is better? 1 or 2 ?"
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Jul 10, 2007 09:35 |  #1

Hi, this is my first post here. I thought I would start by asking everyone's opinion. I tried to take two different shots of a stone at an old graveyard near my home. I wonder which exposure you like better.
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Jul 10, 2007 11:13 |  #2

I've voted... but I also saw you allow image editing so I did a [very] quick fix of how I think it might look a little better. I prefer this one because there is a balance between the blown out sky and the dark subject. For this image I also prefer the square crop.

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Jul 10, 2007 13:19 |  #3

Thanks tumana! I do prefer your rendition of it better. I don't have any skills (especially in developing) so I don't know how to put the two pictures together. I have a lot to learn, but what you did is what I wanted in the first place. Now I guess I don't have to choose between the two photos, they have become one. :-)


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Jul 10, 2007 13:55 as a reply to  @ ducko's post |  #4

Cool. I'm glad you liked my rendition of your photo. :cool: I think it already had good composition, especially the leaves framing the cross. It just needs proper lighting.

Keep posting.

edit: BTW, by now means am I an expert at post-processing -- or photography for that matter. I just saw something your photo could use. If I can do that I'm sure you can. For now I use Photoshop CS2 but I plan on buying Lightroom.


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Jul 10, 2007 14:18 |  #5

The first one is much too contrasty in my opinion. However, the composition is fairly nice. Have you thought about how a change in perspective (such as elevating the camera to get the perspective seen by a human, instead of a puppy) would change the relationship between the monument and the vegetation in the background?

The 2nd one is pretty nearly a silhouette, and I much prefer continuous tone - especially for monochrome images.


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Jul 13, 2007 08:41 as a reply to  @ Robert_Lay's post |  #6

I went back and tried some more pictures. I took the advice of Robert_Lay and set the tripod at "human eye" level. I borrowed my neighbors flash too. What do you think of this one?

IMAGE: http://ducko.smugmug.com/photos/172447425-M.jpg

This is with out any post processing. I think it needs to be cropped but you can use your imagination. ;-)a

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Jul 13, 2007 11:41 |  #7

Interesting change - which is better is nonetheless very subjective. The different perspective makes the cross look bigger in relation to the base.

The flash caused some of the highlights to get blown out.


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Jul 13, 2007 19:13 as a reply to  @ Robert_Lay's post |  #8

How are you taking these b/w photos? Are you using the Black and White setting on the camera or is it done in post-processing?


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Jul 13, 2007 22:34 as a reply to  @ tumana's post |  #9

If I had to choose one...it would be the first...I will vote now too


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Jul 14, 2007 12:32 |  #10

tumana wrote in post #3540928 (external link)
How are you taking these b/w photos? Are you using the Black and White setting on the camera or is it done in post-processing?

Yes, I am using the monochrome setting on my 30d. I don't have a good way of doing any PP. I only have Microsoft photo editor. I am soon going to purchase Lightroom though. I have been told to take color pictures and use photoshop to convert it to b&w. I understand that photoshop does a better job than the camera does?


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Jul 14, 2007 12:33 |  #11

Rakefet wrote in post #3541599 (external link)
If I had to choose one...it would be the first...I will vote now too

Thanks for your input Rakefet!


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Jul 16, 2007 01:09 |  #12

depends on what you want to show. I mean if you want to show us the cross the first one is better. if you want the gloomy sky the second is better. but some PP can do it. you can combine the 2 pictures since they are shoot at the same angle.like what I did here. it is a combination of the 2 photos you took.

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Jul 16, 2007 21:17 |  #13

ngorkngork wrote in post #3552381 (external link)
depends on what you want to show. I mean if you want to show us the cross the first one is better. if you want the gloomy sky the second is better. but some PP can do it. you can combine the 2 pictures since they are shoot at the same angle.like what I did here. it is a combination of the 2 photos you took.
IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE]

Not sure why, but your red X doesn't show the picture for me.


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Jul 17, 2007 00:53 |  #14

maybe something like that?
but i still ike number one the best.
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Jul 17, 2007 00:57 |  #15

Robert_Lay wrote in post #3557587 (external link)
Not sure why, but your red X doesn't show the picture for me.

Yeah Bob messed up with attachements again. Can you please show ,e how to attach pictures properly.




  
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