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drnick
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Jul 16, 2007 14:27 |  #1

hey you guys!

ok, its about colour management again, i have spent hours on this yday and i am starting to get sore eyes! ;p, i just can not figure it out even with all the info i can find.

so, i know there are loads of knowledgable people on here, so here is my problem waiting for a solution.

i have calibrated my monitor using adobe gamma to gamma 1.8, saved the profile and defaulted it in windows settings. now images are being displayed in windows fine, in photoshop they are too dark. my colour settings in photoshop are fine, adobe rgb working space, gamma 1.8, preserve profiles etc. but the images are darker in photoshop. i can fix the problem by proofing the image to monitor rgb or turning colour management off. this i have read leads to a bad monitor profile? again i know it must be something simple but i can not figure it out.

a few other things i am not sure of,
1) deleting the monitor profile from the windows settings cures the problem in photoshop. should i just not have a profile in the windows settings.
2) deleting or changing the profile does nothing to the images in windows, is this because it is not icc calibrated...as in windows does not do any colour calibrating.
3)adobe gamma, if i change the gamma in this program and close it the same gamma remains, even with no profile loaded in windows? does adobe gamma run in the background?




  
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Jul 16, 2007 18:38 |  #2

Set your gamma to 2.2 when profiling and calibrating your monitor. A gamma of 1.8 used to be used on the old Mac machines but now-a-days, a gamma of 2.2 is universally used, even on the Macs, especially if working with Photoshop.


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Jul 16, 2007 19:09 |  #3

OP, i dont mean to hijack your thread, but if i may interject a quick question (im still trying to grapple with this stuff also), when you calibrate your monitor, does it automatically set a gamma? I have calibrated my laptop screen, but in my windows display menu, it says my gamma is at 1.0. When i change it to 2.2 everything is WAY bright. should I leave it where it is?


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Jul 16, 2007 20:16 |  #4

OK,...now I don't know if this will help or really drive you crazy.....I had a problem with Adobe Photoshop and Elements also...mine was a vert bad "greenish"tint...I could open the "ZOOMBROWSER" program and the picture looked great (or as good as it was going to with my limited ability), but at the same time have this ugly tint in any Adobe program.....anyway I signed on to the Adobe message board....& did not find those people as easy going as these people...once again..anyway...
I found a link there under another link titled color management module (or something very similar) - the link was to a download "CMMAII"....couldn't tell ya what it is but it FIXED the color problems I was having.
I hope your issues are cleared up soon.
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Jul 17, 2007 01:20 as a reply to  @ Violator's post |  #5

thankyou, thankyou! :)

ok it is now sorted, had something to do with a dodgy profile in windows? if i name the icc montor profile to the standard srgb........ name, adobe gamma starts with everything is fine. if i set it to my more apt named profile as the default it screws up. why is this?

on the gamma issue, i understand 2.2 has become the standard but i prefer 1.8. i have set to 2.2 and everything just looks too dark and saturated to me...your thoughts?




  
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Jul 17, 2007 12:43 |  #6

drnick wrote in post #3555519 (external link)
my colour settings in photoshop are fine, adobe rgb working space, gamma 1.8, preserve profiles etc.

There is no monitor gamma setting in PS. You are referring to the B&W working space. Has nothing whatsoever to do with the monitor calibration.

Have a read in the link from my sig.

drnick wrote in post #3558595 (external link)
on the gamma issue, i understand 2.2 has become the standard but i prefer 1.8. i have set to 2.2 and everything just looks too dark and saturated to me...your thoughts?

Why do you prefer 1.8?
It used to be standard on Mac (pre OSX), but it really is kinda obsolete now. And it only changes the way non colormanaged programs display images (like Windows Fax Viewer).

Use 2.2


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