LCD panel type - Samsung 245BW ?

http://www.samsung.com …LS24HUBCFV/XAA&​fullspec=F

I have done a lot of searching on the net, including the link that has been posted here for a Denmark site (or somewhere like that) that list a lot of the panel types by manufacturer. I have not been able to find out what panel type the Samsung 245BW 24" LCD monitor has. Based on there older 24" monitors, I would guess either PVA or S-PVA, but I cannot find anything that says difinitively what it is.

Can anyone tell me, with certainty, which panel the 245BW has.

From what I understand from reading is that S-IPS is the best because it has true 8-bit color, 16.7 million colors. Something else I read said that S-PVA also has true 8-bit, 16.7 million colors and that PVA has enhanced 6-bit, 16.2 million colors. So, would either the PVA or S-PVA be ideal over a TN panel?

safehaven wrote in post #3582279
Can anyone tell me, with certainty, which panel the 245BW has.

Well, rechecking here:

http://www.flatpanels.​dk/panels.php

I again see the monitor in question is not listed. But, I do see 2 or 3 other monitors with a "B" or a "BW" in the designation. All of them are TN's. Still yet, the Samsungs specs list a 3000:1 contrast ratio. From what I have read, that high of a contrast ratio is inherant to the S-PVA panels.

If someone could find a definitive answer, I'd be very appreciative.

safehaven wrote in post #3582342
Well, rechecking here:

http://www.flatpanels.​dk/panels.php

I again see the monitor in question is not listed. But, I do see 2 or 3 other monitors with a "B" or a "BW" in the designation. All of them are TN's. Still yet, the Samsungs specs list a 3000:1 contrast ratio. From what I have read, that high of a contrast ratio is inherant to the S-PVA panels.

If someone could find a definitive answer, I'd be very appreciative.

Email him. He's usually pretty good about quickly adding panels.

Three minutes in google found this:

link(go down to about message 6)

and

link

toward the bottom is this:

Edit: FWIW, I have two 8-bit panels. I just researched/purchased one for a friend. I had a hell of a time finding one. A year ago when I purchased mine, they were in office supply stores like staples, compusa, etc. However, I assume because of the price structure of 8-bit panels, they were harder to move because the average consumer doesn't know the difference and as a result, have been moved out of the way for lower cost stuff. To get that recent panel, I had to go to ebay and purchased a reconditioned samsumg 215tw. Luckily, it worked perfectly. Good luck.

P.P.S, sorry... it looks like a TN.

Thanks CannedHeat. You did in 3 min what I could not find in an hour and a half. One of those links is from this site, and I searched this site. I think I didn't get any hits because I typed "245BW" and that link has it as "245BW?".

As I was searching for hours <sigh>, I read on multiple sites that "all" 24 inch monitors are PVA or S-PVA. This furthered my hope that it was not a TN panel. I guess this one is the exception to the rule.

Oh well, I guess I'll probably just save a lot of money and go for a Viewsonic 22" with a TN panel.

Thanks for your help!

safehaven wrote in post #3582900
Thanks CannedHeat. You did in 3 min what I could not find in an hour and a half. One of those links is from this site, and I searched this site. I think I didn't get any hits because I typed "245BW" and that link has it as "245BW?".

As I was searching for hours <sigh>, I read on multiple sites that "all" 24 inch monitors are PVA or S-PVA. This furthered my hope that it was not a TN panel. I guess this one is the exception to the rule.

Oh well, I guess I'll probably just save a lot of money and go for a Viewsonic 22" with a TN panel.

Thanks for your help!

One caution: those quotes were from forums, and forums, as far as they go, can contain wrongful info if compared to a Popular Photography article, etc.

You may want to do further research to make sure. The search I did was easy. Go back to the flatpanel site and get that panel model number from the 245T also notice all samsung 24" 8-bit panels use that same model. Google using that panel number along with the keyword 245bw. You will get lots of additional hits to read.

I've never seen this site before, but it confirms what you said. TN.

http://lcd24.asp2.cz …Master-245BW/Default.aspx

In case anyone searches this later, I also found out that the ACER AL2416WBSD is also a 24" TN panel (the same panel as the Samsung 245BW, TN240CT01)

Another great place to search for panel types of all sizes:

http://www.tftcentral.​co.uk …h.php?query=&se​lect=model

I assume you went back to the root domain of that lcd24 site. Although the reviews are in (czech?), the tech info is useful. I'll be bookmarking that one. The very first panel I clicked on (Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW) was PVA.

No kidding. Never saw the TFT central site before. In some ways, better than flatpanel because at the root domain there's all kinds of reviews, info, etc.

Excellent links. thanks. good luck on the search. whatever info you discover, consider posting your info on potn for future searches. Incorporate keywords in the post such as 8-bit, lcd, pva, tn, etc. /Dan

So, I read this article on TFTCentral

http://www.tftcentral.​co.uk/articles/6bit_8b​it.htm

I basicaclly explains how the TN panels are evolving for the better and how some of the 8-bits are evolving backwards into 6-bit with dithering.

In the article, it explains in detail how they are getting TN panels to produce 16.2 mil and 16.7 mil colors. Obviously, the 16.2 mil is achieved by 6-bit + dithering. On the other hand is says that when 16.7 mil is advertised, that it is achieved by 6-bit converting to 9-bit, which produces 8-bit as the end result. Now I don't exactly know what that means, but it sound interesting nonetheless.

So,my deal is that I am only willing to spend enough money to buy a TN panel. I have mostly been looking at a Viewsonic with a 6-bit + dithering. Its not the exact same as reviewed here, but I believe it to have the exact same panel. http://www.tftcentral.​co.uk …ws/viewsonic_vx​2245wm.htm
It seemed to get a pretty decent review, despite being a TN panel with 6-bit + dithering.

And then, I have been looking at the before mentioned Samsung 245BW. According to this site it should have a 6-bit converted to 9-bit TN panel, since Samsung is advertising 16.7 mil colors.

My question is after all of that, to anyone who knows more about this stuff than I do... If I am not willing to ante up for anything better than a TN panel, would either or both of these be better than a standard 6-bit panel? Also, even though it is TN to TN, would the Samsung possibly still be the better choice, since it advertises 16.7 mil colors as opposed to 16.2 mil colors?

safehaven wrote in post #3587006
So, I read this article on TFTCentral

http://www.tftcentral.​co.uk/articles/6bit_8b​it.htm

I basicaclly explains how the TN panels are evolving for the better and how some of the 8-bits are evolving backwards into 6-bit with dithering.

In the article, it explains in detail how they are getting TN panels to produce 16.2 mil and 16.7 mil colors. Obviously, the 16.2 mil is achieved by 6-bit + dithering. On the other hand is says that when 16.7 mil is advertised, that it is achieved by 6-bit converting to 9-bit, which produces 8-bit as the end result. Now I don't exactly know what that means, but it sound interesting nonetheless.

So,my deal is that I am only willing to spend enough money to buy a TN panel. I have mostly been looking at a Viewsonic with a 6-bit + dithering. Its not the exact same as reviewed here, but I believe it to have the exact same panel. http://www.tftcentral.​co.uk …ws/viewsonic_vx​2245wm.htm
It seemed to get a pretty decent review, despite being a TN panel with 6-bit + dithering.

And then, I have been looking at the before mentioned Samsung 245BW. According to this site it should have a 6-bit converted to 9-bit TN panel, since Samsung is advertising 16.7 mil colors.

My question is after all of that, to anyone who knows more about this stuff than I do... If I am not willing to ante up for anything better than a TN panel, would either or both of these be better than a standard 6-bit panel? Also, even though it is TN to TN, would the Samsung possibly still be the better choice, since it advertises 16.7 mil colors as opposed to 16.2 mil colors?

I'll let other chime in with info, but if it were my personal choice, I would rather have a good 8-bit panel in a smaller size than a 6-bit larger. More than likely, the amount you have budgeted for a 24" panel would be more than enough to purchase a smaller 8-bit panel.