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Jul 25, 2007 02:15 |  #1

Just a few from a senior photo shoot I did on Sunday. Not much done in the way of editing yet (got some cloning to do). C & C Welcome.

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Jul 25, 2007 11:18 |  #2

I'm curious about the outfit she's wearing? Are ripped dirty jeans really back in style?
As for the shots I like #2 the best, she probably could be turned a little more.




  
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Jul 25, 2007 11:56 |  #3

eh, no offense, but 4 makes her look a bit masculine...

7 is my fav out of all of them. I love the angle


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Jul 25, 2007 13:50 |  #4

Ok... everyone has their own ideas as to how portraits should look. The idea of the portrait is to "portray" a person and their personality. I think that stating opinions about any portrait on here on the basis of how a person looks or comes across is a little unfair. I'm not meaning this as a slam to anyone and this post should not be taken in anger. I've just noticed that there is a lot of that happening here... not the same people all the time either. One example is Myk's post. Please Myk, don't take this as a personal attack... it really isn't. You just happen to be lucky enough to be within my eye shot at this very second while I'm writing this...haha. Anyway... his comment about #4 making her look masculine, seems to be a negative since he qualifies it with "no offense". I agree that it does in fact give her a masculine look. Maybe it's the ripped jeans, maybe it's the truck which is 5x bigger than mine(I am not envious), or maybe it's just the way she's standing. But I don't think it's a negative thing. Particularly if this is correctly reflecting her personality. Only the photographer, model, and those close to them can say for sure. Is she sort of a Tomboy? If so, then I'd say that #4 especially is a very good portrait. The question about ripped jeans was asked... yes it's becoming very popular again.

What I think is fair for commentary is if the technical aspects of the photo warrant comment. How's the lighting, composition, are there items in the frame that don't contribute to the theme or subject, is the color off, and these types of things. Of course if a photographer posts a photo and says specifically that they were trying to portray their subject as a delicate flower, and she's standing with her finger up her nose and she's scratching her butt, I think it would be fair to point out that it didn't work. haha...

As for these portraits... All are in focus so good job there. For the most part, I like them... but I'm thinking that #2 could benefit from some highlight recovery. The face and white stripes in the shirt in particular are a little overexposed. #5 looks a little awkward to me, but cute too. I'm not sure about the background. It makes me ask, "where is she, and what does it say about her?". I just don't get the train tracks but everyone seems to use them... but I'll tell you what... #6 is my favorite of the bunch. You seem to have achieved a really good dynamic range and light blend here. Maybe a wee bit too much flash on the face... but it is a great shot to me, regardless. #3 and #4. Pretty cool shots here. I think that both of these reflect a girl with a personality like... "Yeah, I'm a girl... what about it?" #3 looks like it may have been pushed a little though. Or is it gunk on the paint? But I'm picking up what looks like strong chroma noise on the side of the truck. Right in her reflection. Still a cool shot though.

EDIT: I take it back... #2 is NOT overexposed, it is just a little "color flat". Do a small LAB tone curve boost and it will improve it.


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Jul 25, 2007 14:14 |  #5

I agree with John here.
#2 and #6 are my favorites. A little contrast or color boost on #2 and its a real nice portrait. I like the train track type shots, I dunno why but I do...a bit strong flash on the face but I still like it.
The rest are ok. The poses are, I dunno...was she tense or not used to standing in front of the camera? That's sort of what the poses look like, like she was tense, not knocking her at all but that area of it (poses) could be improved I think personally.
Got a nice variety of locations tho. Keep it up!


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Jul 25, 2007 14:32 |  #6

forkball wrote in post #3609249 (external link)
Please Myk, don't take this as a personal attack...

DAMN YOU!
Just kidding. ;) No offense taken. It takes a person back a step, but I understand the general point you're trying to make. But I also saw the "C & C" in the OP. Correct me if I'm wrong, but "C & C" stands for "Critique & Comments" (or vice versa), does it not? So, see mine as the latter, not the former. But if it's really Critique that's wanted, here ya go:
#1 She looks a bit tense/cold. Have her relax a bit more.
#2 Could use some fill for the back of her head, it looks really dark (blends into tree) but that could be my monitor.
#3 Has too much light reflecting off the tool box (or whatever they're called) hitting the right side of her face, otherwise it's a great photo, I love the light and angle.
#4 I don't like the angle of her head or the look on her face. If a "tough" look was sought after, fantastic job. If not, angling her head to her right or down to the camera (with even a smile cracked or a smirk) would really set the picture loose.
#5 Very nice pose, it looks like she's having fun, which makes the picture warmer. I'd like to see it in full blown color.
#6 I think this would be a really great photo if her hands weren't in the same position. Maybe have her (next time) put them on her hips to differentiate the pose from the other pics. Great use of the natural environment & sun. The perspective gives a real feel for distance from other objects (rr tracks).
#7 Like I said before, my favorite of the set. I love the angle and the use of the building. I even like how the doors catch my eye, thinking it's her shadow, then I realize it's not. The shirt doesn't jump out from the wall, but it's not drowned in it either. Great choice.
#8 If I'm not mistaken, it's the same tree as the first two. Great pose. Her smile sells the photo.


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Jul 25, 2007 15:55 |  #7

Myk wrote in post #3609460 (external link)
DAMN YOU!
Just kidding. ;) No offense taken. It takes a person back a step, but I understand the general point you're trying to make. But I also saw the "C & C" in the OP. Correct me if I'm wrong, but "C & C" stands for "Critique & Comments" (or vice versa), does it not? So, see mine as the latter, not the former. But if it's really Critique that's wanted, here ya go:
#1 She looks a bit tense/cold. Have her relax a bit more.
#2 Could use some fill for the back of her head, it looks really dark (blends into tree) but that could be my monitor.
#3 Has too much light reflecting off the tool box (or whatever they're called) hitting the right side of her face, otherwise it's a great photo, I love the light and angle.
#4 I don't like the angle of her head or the look on her face. If a "tough" look was sought after, fantastic job. If not, angling her head to her right or down to the camera (with even a smile cracked or a smirk) would really set the picture loose.
#5 Very nice pose, it looks like she's having fun, which makes the picture warmer. I'd like to see it in full blown color.
#6 I think this would be a really great photo if her hands weren't in the same position. Maybe have her (next time) put them on her hips to differentiate the pose from the other pics. Great use of the natural environment & sun. The perspective gives a real feel for distance from other objects (rr tracks).
#7 Like I said before, my favorite of the set. I love the angle and the use of the building. I even like how the doors catch my eye, thinking it's her shadow, then I realize it's not. The shirt doesn't jump out from the wall, but it's not drowned in it either. Great choice.
#8 If I'm not mistaken, it's the same tree as the first two. Great pose. Her smile sells the photo.

Now these are GOOD critiques... ;) I'm glad you didn't take offense.


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Jul 25, 2007 18:23 |  #8

forkball wrote in post #3609249 (external link)
Is she sort of a Tomboy? If so, then I'd say that #4 especially is a very good portrait.

Yeah she is a definitely sort of a tomboy, and was more excited for these shots than any of the others.

forkball wrote in post #3609249 (external link)
As for these portraits... All are in focus so good job there. For the most part, I like them... but I'm thinking that #2 could benefit from some highlight recovery. The face and white stripes in the shirt in particular are a little overexposed. #5 looks a little awkward to me, but cute too. I'm not sure about the background. It makes me ask, "where is she, and what does it say about her?". I just don't get the train tracks but everyone seems to use them... but I'll tell you what... #6 is my favorite of the bunch. You seem to have achieved a really good dynamic range and light blend here. Maybe a wee bit too much flash on the face... but it is a great shot to me, regardless. #3 and #4. Pretty cool shots here. I think that both of these reflect a girl with a personality like... "Yeah, I'm a girl... what about it?" #3 looks like it may have been pushed a little though. Or is it gunk on the paint? But I'm picking up what looks like strong chroma noise on the side of the truck. Right in her reflection. Still a cool shot though.

EDIT: I take it back... #2 is NOT overexposed, it is just a little "color flat". Do a small LAB tone curve boost and it will improve it.

Thanks for the critiques. #3 was pushed a bit (as well as the truck being a bit dirty), the monitor I use to edit runs a bit dark so I wasn't seeing it at first, but I checked it on my laptop and it jumped right out. #5, yeah, the background is not great, it was more of a snap, but I liked the expression. #6 Thanks, I will see if I can tone down the flash on the face a bit. As to train track shots, I do very much like them, but I would not go out of my way for them, these just happened to be close to where some other shots were taken.#2 I reattached after boosting the contrast and dropping the exposure a bit. See below.

TSEE wrote in post #3609374 (external link)
I agree with John here.
#2 and #6 are my favorites. A little contrast or color boost on #2 and its a real nice portrait. I like the train track type shots, I dunno why but I do...a bit strong flash on the face but I still like it.
The rest are ok. The poses are, I dunno...was she tense or not used to standing in front of the camera? That's sort of what the poses look like, like she was tense, not knocking her at all but that area of it (poses) could be improved I think personally.
Got a nice variety of locations tho. Keep it up!

Thanks, she was very tense towards the beginning (The striped shirt photos) I think partly being in front of the camera, partly uncomfortable with that shirt. As for posing, I definitely need to improve, it's one of my weakest areas. I do have other poses (I just noticed the ones I posted all seem to be thumbs in the pocket), but yeah, definitely need more posing variety.

Myk wrote in post #3609460 (external link)
DAMN YOU!
Just kidding. ;) No offense taken. It takes a person back a step, but I understand the general point you're trying to make. But I also saw the "C & C" in the OP. Correct me if I'm wrong, but "C & C" stands for "Critique & Comments" (or vice versa), does it not? So, see mine as the latter, not the former. But if it's really Critique that's wanted, here ya go:
#1 She looks a bit tense/cold. Have her relax a bit more.
#2 Could use some fill for the back of her head, it looks really dark (blends into tree) but that could be my monitor.
#3 Has too much light reflecting off the tool box (or whatever they're called) hitting the right side of her face, otherwise it's a great photo, I love the light and angle.
#4 I don't like the angle of her head or the look on her face. If a "tough" look was sought after, fantastic job. If not, angling her head to her right or down to the camera (with even a smile cracked or a smirk) would really set the picture loose.
#5 Very nice pose, it looks like she's having fun, which makes the picture warmer. I'd like to see it in full blown color.
#6 I think this would be a really great photo if her hands weren't in the same position. Maybe have her (next time) put them on her hips to differentiate the pose from the other pics. Great use of the natural environment & sun. The perspective gives a real feel for distance from other objects (rr tracks).
#7 Like I said before, my favorite of the set. I love the angle and the use of the building. I even like how the doors catch my eye, thinking it's her shadow, then I realize it's not. The shirt doesn't jump out from the wall, but it's not drowned in it either. Great choice.
#8 If I'm not mistaken, it's the same tree as the first two. Great pose. Her smile sells the photo.

Thanks, for both the comments and the critique (I did not take offense at the first at all, as you are correct it is masculine, she is very much the tomboy).

#1 - Right on, she was pretty tense, she loosened up a little bit as we went on.
#2 - Good point, will have to work on that a bit. Reposted down below, but hair is still lost in the tree.
#3 - I didn't even notice at first. I have pretty much the same shot with a better angle that doesn't have that reflection I will use instead.
#4 - The tomboy shining through again, the semi-pissed look is very much in line with her typical attitude. Getting her to smile/laugh and have it look natural was one of the tougher aspects of the day.
#5 I attached a full color version.
#6 On posing, yeah, I really have to watch that. I really do have her with different poses, I swear:), but this one is the most common.
#7 Thanks, one of my favorites as well.
#8 Thanks, thumbs in pockets again, but I did finally get a smile out of her (told her Harry Potter was dead, and she finally smiles..go figure :)


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Jul 26, 2007 14:14 |  #9

mssmison wrote in post #3608449 (external link)
I'm curious about the outfit she's wearing? Are ripped dirty jeans really back in style?
As for the shots I like #2 the best, she probably could be turned a little more.

lol...apparently you don't have teenage kids.


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