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Jul 28, 2007 09:26 |  #16

Mike McCusker wrote in post #3624616 (external link)
Curtis N.,

I apologize if this should be a pm. As you can tell, if you remember any of my prior posts, I am an amateur doing photograhy for my own enjoyment. Do you know of a reasonably priced bracket ($100 to $200) for use with 20D and Joe Demb Flipit?
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Stroboframe CameraFlip will come in just under $100, just over with the off shoe cord.

Newton looks like a good bet too in the upper end of your price range.


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Jul 28, 2007 09:28 |  #17

Titus213 wrote in post #3624799 (external link)
Stroboframe CameraFlip will come in just under $100, just over with the off shoe cord.

Newton looks like a good bet too in the upper end of your price range.

Downside to the Cameraflip is that it doesn't work with cameras with grips, or 1 series bodies since the grip is integrated. You can modify it, but IMHO you shouldn't have to. A wee bit more thought on the part of Tiffen and it would be a real nice bracket for anyone.


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Jul 28, 2007 09:45 |  #18

I shoot events, not weddings. Basically, think a lot more unpredictable since every one has a different sequence of events. Add copious amounts of alcohol to some of the guests and it becomes even more unpredictable. ;)

I swear by the Joe Demb Flipit. BEST bounce card I've ever used all these years. One of the features I like best is the ability to simply flip it out of the way when you need direct flash. Last event I attended, they literally had flat black ceilings in one room - which were absolutely useless for bouncing. I used direct flash and was able to control my lighting much more effectively.

It's a great bounce card that suits every flash with just one size, goes everywhere, does everything. It's like the rubber band/index card/folded white printer paper card on steroids :)




  
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Jul 28, 2007 12:09 |  #19

Mike McCusker wrote in post #3624616 (external link)
Do you know of a reasonably priced bracket ($100 to $200) for use with 20D and Joe Demb Flipit?

One advantage to the Flipit is that it mounts on the side of the flash, so an ultra-simple flash rotating bracket like the Stroboframe flash flip can be made to work with it. But when you switch from horizontal to vertical you'll need to reposition the flash head as well.

Lots of people like the Stroboframe Cameraflip. I have two of those and I think they work well for the casual amateur or maybe weekend pro. As mentioned, it's not designed for 1 series bodies or battery grips.

I haven't had my hands on a Newton Bracket but lots of people swear by them, too.

Hardware really is a personal decision. It's all about what works comfortably for you.


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Jul 28, 2007 17:12 |  #20

Wow, I am amazed to see how many people prefet flip card over devices such as gary fong. I always though flip cards were harder to use because you could have wrong angle sending light either too high or too low. Also, what if you set it at 75 degree angle and then your camera pointed downwards changing the angle a bit more. hmmm. It seems harder to use if you keep changing between landscape and portrait.

On the other hand I think of gary fong to be a bit more all around light distributor. These are simply my through as I have used a flip card but never used a Gary fong.

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Jul 28, 2007 17:26 |  #21

As camera and flash accessories are usually pretty much expensive, I think Peter Greg's abetterbouncecard is an awesome flash accessory specially when taking pictures inside. Results are great and everybody can craft it him/herself for almost no cost and that's why everybody can try at least try it and I believe once you try it, you'll like it.


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Jul 28, 2007 17:48 |  #22

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Jul 28, 2007 17:52 |  #23

Titus213 wrote in post #3622809 (external link)
Lumiquest ProMax System with a camera flip bracket.

Ditto 100%.


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Jul 28, 2007 18:07 |  #24

cdifoto wrote in post #3624805 (external link)
Downside to the Cameraflip is that it doesn't work with cameras with grips, or 1 series bodies since the grip is integrated. You can modify it, but IMHO you shouldn't have to. A wee bit more thought on the part of Tiffen and it would be a real nice bracket for anyone.

Yup, but the OP asked for a bracket for casual use with a 20D. I am constantly amazed by folks who absolutely refuse to remove the grip from their camera and would rather spend another $100 - $200 for a bracket to accommodate it. But to each his own.

Truth be known, I'd love a Custom Bracket Digi-Pro. Reality says $300+ is not going to happen for a bracket.


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Jul 28, 2007 18:28 |  #25

Peter Greg's abetterbouncecard sounds very interesting. does anyone have any real life wedding experience using these? does it work just as good (or better) than Lightsphere? Does it look professional?

I like the tupperwear :D Iam not too sure though how good it would look for a paid wedding professional :-)


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Jul 28, 2007 18:30 |  #26

I modified my Stroboframe CameraFlip for about $3 in parts and an hour of my time. Here's a link to the thread that I posted about the mod.


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Jul 28, 2007 18:40 |  #27

Titus213 wrote in post #3626674 (external link)
Yup, but the OP asked for a bracket for casual use with a 20D. I am constantly amazed by folks who absolutely refuse to remove the grip from their camera and would rather spend another $100 - $200 for a bracket to accommodate it. But to each his own.

Truth be known, I'd love a Custom Bracket Digi-Pro. Reality says $300+ is not going to happen for a bracket.

Well some of us buy grips to use them. And some of us have cameras without removable grips a la 1D. Some of us don't want a bracket for each camera, but rather one that can fit them all. Trust me, once you've been through 3 or 4 brackets you'll know what a relief it is to just spend the bucks for the right one. I've had the Cameraflip. It was good. While it lasted. But when I upgraded it was a no-go. Wouldn't you rather know BEFORE you purchase a bracket whether it will work with the rig you're most comfortable using? ;)

Sure, you can modify it...if you have the tools. If you don't, well...you just gotta buy what works in the first place.


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Jul 28, 2007 22:02 |  #28

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Well some of us buy grips to use them. And some of us have cameras without removable grips a la 1D. Some of us don't want a bracket for each camera, but rather one that can fit them all. Trust me, once you've been through 3 or 4 brackets you'll know what a relief it is to just spend the bucks for the right one. I've had the Cameraflip. It was good. While it lasted. But when I upgraded it was a no-go. Wouldn't you rather know BEFORE you purchase a bracket whether it will work with the rig you're most comfortable using? ;)

Sure, you can modify it...if you have the tools. If you don't, well...you just gotta buy what works in the first place.

Serious question - what do you use your grip for? Most equipment like this is personal preference.


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Jul 29, 2007 04:33 |  #29

Baadil wrote in post #3626738 (external link)
Peter Greg's abetterbouncecard sounds very interesting. does anyone have any real life wedding experience using these? does it work just as good (or better) than Lightsphere? Does it look professional?

I like the tupperwear :D Iam not too sure though how good it would look for a paid wedding professional :-)

Hello Baadil,
well I haven't tried Lightsphere so I cannot say that abetterbouncecard is better but I tried abetterbouncecard on my first wedding and it worked pretty well (see some pictures). In regard to look - well if you paint the outer side of the card with black color, it can look just good. From my point, quality of pictures are much more important than look of your equipment.

Please check the pictures and decide if it's working fine (beware that I'm just beginner photographer and it was my first wedding and I haven't touched pictures in PS, just in Camera RAW).

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