Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
Thread started 27 Jul 2007 (Friday) 19:58
Search threadPrev/next
POLL: "Your Favorite Diffuser for Canon 580 for Wedding Photography"
Bare Flash
4
4.4%
Bare Flash in a Bracket
4
4.4%
Built-in Flip
6
6.6%
Flip Card
16
17.6%
Gary Fong (Please Describe which one)
20
22%
Other (Please Describe)
41
45.1%

91 voters, 91 votes given (1 choice only choices can be voted per member)). VOTING IS FOR MEMBERS ONLY.
BROWSE ALL POLLS
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Best Flash Diffuser

 
EdgarG
Member
30 posts
Joined Mar 2007
     
Jul 29, 2007 09:32 |  #31

A better bounce card




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DavidW
Goldmember
3,165 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jul 2005
Location: Bedfordshire, UK
     
Jul 29, 2007 11:01 |  #32

Make this another vote for a Lumiquest Promax System. I'd attach it with a Lumiquest Cinch Strap, and put it on a Newton bracket (I'm using a Di400CR camera rotator for my 20D plus BG-E2 grip).

The Promax System is so versatile - if it wasn't that the Quantum modifiers were so good, I'd be tempted to try it on my Qflash as well.

David




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
cdifoto
Don't get pissy with me
Avatar
34,090 posts
Likes: 44
Joined Dec 2005
     
Jul 29, 2007 11:33 |  #33

Titus213 wrote in post #3627465 (external link)
Serious question - what do you use your grip for? Most equipment like this is personal preference.

While I don't consider it essential, I bought it for the same reasons everyone does. Balance (makes it feel more like the 1D thus a relatively seamless switch between the two ergonomics wise), battery life, and the button. With my Newton I can still hold the camera via the grip and make use of the portrait button. The Newton bracket just goes between 2 fingers and under a small portion of my palm, unlike the Strobo and many others that nearly or completely block access to it.


Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here (external link). Cursing at your worse-than-a-map reflector? Check out this vid! (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Avatar
46,472 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 4574
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Belmont, CA
     
Jul 29, 2007 12:10 |  #34

I don't know if 'Wescott' is now 'Lastolite', but the Wescott Micro Apollo is a mini softbox made for speedlights. Unlike Photoflex or Lumiquest mini softwboxes which are made of vinly, the Wescott used conventional softbox material over a metal wireframe. I have used that for weddings since the 90's, and prefer this over something like the Lumiquest Promax simply because I put it on my flash and shoot, without bothering to configure anything for 'ceiling, no ceiling?', 'neutral ceiling, tinted colored ceiling?' Just set it up on the flash and concentrate on the photo content, not the mechanics of photo creation! (If I didn't use the mini softbox approach, I probably would go with the Promax.)


You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tareq
"I am very lazy, a normal consumer"
Avatar
17,984 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 552
Joined Jan 2006
Location: Ajman - UAE
     
Jul 29, 2007 12:30 |  #35

Wilt wrote in post #3630155 (external link)
I don't know if 'Wescott' is now 'Lastolite', but the Wescott Micro Apollo is a mini softbox made for speedlights. Unlike Photoflex or Lumiquest mini softwboxes which are made of vinly, the Wescott used conventional softbox material over a metal wireframe. I have used that for weddings since the 90's, and prefer this over something like the Lumiquest Promax simply because I put it on my flash and shoot, without bothering to configure anything for 'ceiling, no ceiling?', 'neutral ceiling, tinted colored ceiling?' Just set it up on the flash and concentrate on the photo content, not the mechanics of photo creation! (If I didn't use the mini softbox approach, I probably would go with the Promax.)

i bought it long time ago and i used it once but i didn't know what results should i get and i didn't have that weddings or portraits shooting that much to use it, so i left it somewhere in my room, just i asked if it is worthy then i may used it again, i was looking to get lumiquest but i think i had enough access. for flash to try first before get something else.


Galleries:
http://hamrani.deviant​art.com/gallery/ (external link)
Gear List
Facebook (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Baadil
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
856 posts
Joined Mar 2005
Location: London
     
Jul 29, 2007 13:53 |  #36

Hi Lukas,

Your images look really good. :-) Did you buy the kit of made it yourself? If you made it yourself, what material did you use? Also, did you use the regular car or the newer feather style card?

Thanks.

lukasgunar wrote in post #3628560 (external link)
Hello Baadil,
well I haven't tried Lightsphere so I cannot say that abetterbouncecard is better but I tried abetterbouncecard on my first wedding and it worked pretty well (see some pictures). In regard to look - well if you paint the outer side of the card with black color, it can look just good. From my point, quality of pictures are much more important than look of your equipment.

Please check the pictures and decide if it's working fine (beware that I'm just beginner photographer and it was my first wedding and I haven't touched pictures in PS, just in Camera RAW).


Canon EOS 400D Xti (Poor man's 1D,) Canon 50mm 1.8 II, Sigma 55-200mm f/4-5.6, Canon 18-55mm Kit; Canon 17-55mm 2.8 IS

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
LightUser
Senior Member
Avatar
286 posts
Joined Jun 2007
     
Jul 29, 2007 20:28 |  #37
bannedPermanent ban

bieber wrote in post #3623321 (external link)
I've tended to find that the ceiling works as the best diffuser, if you must have your flash on-camera. It makes for an _enormous_ light source.

Only if it is white and not very high.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
LightUser
Senior Member
Avatar
286 posts
Joined Jun 2007
     
Jul 29, 2007 20:32 |  #38
bannedPermanent ban

cdifoto wrote in post #3624805 (external link)
Downside to the Cameraflip is that it doesn't work with cameras with grips, or 1 series bodies since the grip is integrated. You can modify it, but IMHO you shouldn't have to. A wee bit more thought on the part of Tiffen and it would be a real nice bracket for anyone.

Use a stroboframe flip flash.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sapearl
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
16,946 posts
Gallery: 243 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 2872
Joined Dec 2005
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
     
Jul 29, 2007 20:33 |  #39

The little built in white card, and/or the Lumiquest system, all in conjunction with the Newton camera rotator:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=338933

With the bracket positioning the flash top center above the lens, you won't get those shadows behind the people, or they will fall so low that they will typically be out of view.


GEAR LIST
MY WEBSITE (external link)- MY GALLERIES (external link)- MY BLOG (external link)
Artists Archives of the Western Reserve (external link) - Board

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
cdifoto
Don't get pissy with me
Avatar
34,090 posts
Likes: 44
Joined Dec 2005
     
Jul 29, 2007 20:36 |  #40

LightUser wrote in post #3632778 (external link)
Use a stroboframe flip flash.

Been there, done that on the typical flip flash designs. Now I have a Newton. ;)


Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here (external link). Cursing at your worse-than-a-map reflector? Check out this vid! (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
LightUser
Senior Member
Avatar
286 posts
Joined Jun 2007
     
Jul 29, 2007 20:38 |  #41
bannedPermanent ban

lukasgunar wrote in post #3628560 (external link)
Hello Baadil,
well I haven't tried Lightsphere so I cannot say that abetterbouncecard is better but I tried abetterbouncecard on my first wedding and it worked pretty well (see some pictures). In regard to look - well if you paint the outer side of the card with black color, it can look just good. From my point, quality of pictures are much more important than look of your equipment.

Please check the pictures and decide if it's working fine (beware that I'm just beginner photographer and it was my first wedding and I haven't touched pictures in PS, just in Camera RAW).
.

Great shots. What size of better bounce card do you have? The small one or bigger one. Peter said he uses the smaller 3.5 inch one about 95%of the time. I have the demb flipit and it was a disaster at my last wedding. Not using that anymore.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Baadil
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
856 posts
Joined Mar 2005
Location: London
     
Jul 29, 2007 23:15 |  #42

Hi Stuart,

If you are bouncing the flash off the top anyway, then what's the benefit of using bracket? Do you get any additional advantage?

Thanks.

sapearl wrote in post #3632784 (external link)
The little built in white card, and/or the Lumiquest
system, all in conjunction with the Newton camera rotator:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=338933

With the bracket positioning the flash top center above the lens, you won't get those shadows behind the people, or they will fall so low that they will typically be out of view.


Canon EOS 400D Xti (Poor man's 1D,) Canon 50mm 1.8 II, Sigma 55-200mm f/4-5.6, Canon 18-55mm Kit; Canon 17-55mm 2.8 IS

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rklepper
Dignity-Esteem-Compassion
Avatar
9,019 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 14
Joined Dec 2003
Location: No longer living at the center of the known universe, moved just slightly to the right. Iowa, USA.
     
Jul 29, 2007 23:24 |  #43

Lumiquest ProMax System


Doc Klepper in the USA
I
am a photorealist, I like my photos with a touch of what was actually there.
Polite C&C always welcome, Thanks. Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rklepper
Dignity-Esteem-Compassion
Avatar
9,019 posts
Gallery: 2 photos
Likes: 14
Joined Dec 2003
Location: No longer living at the center of the known universe, moved just slightly to the right. Iowa, USA.
     
Jul 29, 2007 23:24 |  #44

Oh and check out the Newton Camera brackets. Pricey, but really nice.


Doc Klepper in the USA
I
am a photorealist, I like my photos with a touch of what was actually there.
Polite C&C always welcome, Thanks. Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sapearl
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
16,946 posts
Gallery: 243 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 2872
Joined Dec 2005
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
     
Jul 30, 2007 05:47 |  #45

Rotation - from landscape to portrait ... the flash is ALWAYS at the top no matter how you orient the camera. Study the photos again and you'll see see how it rotates:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=338933

Baadil wrote in post #3633671 (external link)
Hi Stuart,

If you are bouncing the flash off the top anyway, then what's the benefit of using bracket? Do you get any additional advantage?

Thanks.


GEAR LIST
MY WEBSITE (external link)- MY GALLERIES (external link)- MY BLOG (external link)
Artists Archives of the Western Reserve (external link) - Board

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

10,732 views & 0 likes for this thread, 31 members have posted to it.
Best Flash Diffuser
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Thunderstream
1819 guests, 100 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.