Please stop using the word Tux

I've seen quite a few posts where people refer to the Tuxedo, a tail less dinner jacket as a Tux. This is incorrect- the correct term is Tuck.

The Tuxedo jacket was introduced in the United States in 1886 at a a party at the Tuxedo Club in Tuxedo Park, NY. First worn by the country club founder's son Griwald Lorrilard who cut the tails off his dinner jacket the tailless jacket quickly became the club's informal uniform.

I do much of my shooting in Tuxedo Park which along with Newport Rhode Island was one of the guilded age's residential areas. (Pierre Lorillard actually sold the original Breakers, a wooden structure, to Vanderbuilt. After it burned to the ground the Breaker Mansion that currently stands in its place was built).

For those interested in history there is a great book on how radar was developed in a house in Tuxedo Park during WWII that allowed landing and spotting of aircraft as well as research on the atomic bomb. I'm a bit of a historian on the guilded age and Tuxedo Park and would be pleased to answer any questions people may have, but even if you have no interest whatsoever, there is no word Tux. It's either Tuxedo or Tuck.

While we're on the topic, there are no such words as DEFENSE, COLOR or CENTER. (Or offense, neighbor and meter for that matter... etc...) The united states spells these and many other words incorrectly; it is certainly not proper english. I believe the reason is because someone by the name of NOAH WEBSTER decided one day that he would spell these words differently than the rest of the billion and some english speaking world. America followed, the rest of the world ignored him.

haha, I don't really care either way really, just adding to the conversation....

wow. intense. that. is. about. all. i. have. to. say. lol.. like my sentence errors?

picturecrazy wrote in post #3653666
... words differently than the rest of the billion and some ...

"different than" is also a US thing - correct combinations in the Queen's english would be "different from" or "different to"

Rob

picturecrazy wrote in post #3653666
While we're on the topic, there are no such words as DEFENSE, COLOR or CENTER.

Try telling that to HTML & CSS

I do agree though...as a Canadian living in the UK my mish-mash of English & American spellings frustrates a lot of folks I work with!

I'm still not sure how Tuxedo shortens to Tuck though. There is such as thing as a Tux though

...and if you need to understand UK slang, this website is a good place to find explanations: http://www.peevish.co.​uk/slang/index.htm

Rob

LOL Rob that sites good, has got me laughing!

I need some Tuck...err I mean Duck...dammit I meant duct...Tape for my Tux.

BTW. I have NEVER heard anyone call it a Tuck. What crawled into your Cheerios and died early this morning, Rich?

If you want to understand another side of the language, google "profanisaurus". Don't read it at work. I ordered the printed version one day after a few drinks, it's good for a laugh but it's not very practical. When anyone asks what a word means I hand it to them, it's funny to watch their face!

tim wrote in post #3654538
If you want to understand another side of the language, google "profanisaurus".

Isn't that the new creature to replace the Spinosaurus in Jurassic Park IV?

Nothing gets up my ire like an English challenge.

I immediately ran to the dictionary. According to the Random House Dictionary and Merriam Webster's, 10th Collegiate Edition, both:

Tuck and Tux are accepted to mean Tuxedo.

Sorry, Rich. That's two demerits. One more and you'll stand no chance of "The Enforcer" as your nom de plume.

me

Your right, matey! I hate it to when people mispell words their using.

sblais wrote in post #3655190
Your right, matey! I hate it to when people mispell words their using.

Your dead wright.

sblais wrote in post #3655190
Your right, matey! I hate it to when people mispell words their using.

tim wrote in post #3655242
Your dead wright.

Your bowth rong.