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Aug 04, 2007 17:08 |  #1

I think it marvellous that, apparently, very few people have problems any more. It seems that people today have 'issues'. Why is that do you think? Why do people say such things as "I have an issue with my camera's shutter" - and why don't they say "problem"?




  
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Aug 04, 2007 17:11 |  #2

Hmmm.. Good question, I don't know.


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Aug 04, 2007 17:42 |  #3

Interesting BLOG (external link) on this problematic issue.


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Aug 04, 2007 17:50 |  #4

wow that's a pretty accurate blog and I agree in terms of people vs. people. In the technology realm I think it's a bit different in that a problem would mean you believe the technology to be in error i.e "I have a problem with my shutter" whereas an issue could mean user error that's not readily obvious what the problem is, i.e. "do I have a back-focus issue?" which would imply that it might be the camera or it could be the user.


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Aug 04, 2007 17:55 |  #5

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wow that's a pretty accurate blog and I agree in terms of people vs. people. In the technology realm I think it's a bit different in that a problem would mean you believe the technology to be in error i.e "I have a problem with my shutter" whereas an issue could mean user error that's not readily obvious what the problem is, i.e. "do I have a back-focus issue?" which would imply that it might be the camera or it could be the user.

I'm sorry, but that makes no sense at all. A problem is a problem - why call it an issue?




  
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Aug 04, 2007 18:01 |  #6

Roy Mathers wrote in post #3669283 (external link)
I'm sorry, but that makes no sense at all. A problem is a problem - why call it an issue?

What would you call an issue?


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Aug 04, 2007 18:01 |  #7

It makes perfect sense to me but allow me to try again.

It's all about perception or semantics. A problem could imply a physical obstacle (broken shutter) while an issue could imply a mental obstacle (lack of skill). Now do I agree with this? I dunno, I don't really care because I don't care what someone says whether it's an issue or a problem.


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Aug 04, 2007 18:18 |  #8

cylentka wrote in post #3669303 (external link)
What would you call an issue?

As a noun, anything here -

http://www.wordreferen​ce.com/definition/issu​e (external link)




  
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Aug 04, 2007 18:32 as a reply to  @ Roy Mathers's post |  #9

A problem is something you overcome while an issue is something that you deal with.

The PTB do not want people overcoming anything - just deal with it.



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Aug 04, 2007 18:37 |  #10

I think this is the definition that people are using when they don't want to use the word "problem"

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an important question that is in dispute and must be settled; "the issue could be settled by requiring public education for everyone"; "politicians never discuss the real issues"

I think people use "issues" when they want to bring something to someones attention without using an emotion-laden word like "problems". Saying someone has "issues" is kinder than saying someone has "problems", I guess. Probably due to the way we think of problems as being unsolvable, whereas issues have answers. No one likes to admit they have problems, so we have issues instead. In my mind, a problem is something that needs solved, like a math problem. An issue is something that needs to be dealt with somehow even if you don't really solve anything. (can you tell I work for the government? ;) )


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Aug 04, 2007 18:38 |  #11

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A problem is something you overcome while an issue is something that you deal with.

The PTB do not want people overcoming anything - just deal with it.

Wow, that is a much more concise way of saying what I just said!


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Aug 04, 2007 18:38 |  #12

Excuse my ignorance, but what is or are PTB?




  
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Aug 04, 2007 19:06 |  #13

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Aug 04, 2007 20:10 |  #14

Or maybe it just sounds cooler. ;)


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Aug 04, 2007 20:53 as a reply to  @ Mum2J&M's post |  #15

I've got lots of issues in my life and that's a problem.

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