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Aug 10, 2007 17:22 |  #1

Researched, questioned, hemmed and hawed...finally ordered and got the Qflash 5d-R, Turbo2x2, ttl module, and the uber cool Custom Brackets Pro-M. Quite the contraption as you can see.

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This is a quick image (I cropped out some clutter) taken at ISO 400, f/16 and Tv160 from about 15-17 feet. Shooting in bright sun and backlight was a big decision factor.

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Shooting a wedding in Jacksonville, IL tomorrow...it is sure to get a work out!


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Aug 10, 2007 20:02 |  #2

Pretty stoked for you .. and totally jealous! :lol:
I want almost the same set-up myself .. but I wanna be off camera with the Q.
Before someone else asks, and they will, annnnd, you don't mind ..
Whud ya spend? :oops:

ps .. lovin that outdoor fill .. and btw .. g'luck at the wedding :D
pss .. lol, just noticed you are off camera with the Q .. but, I wanna be able to be bracket mounted ..
I'm also on a tripod when doing most formals anyway ..


  
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Aug 10, 2007 20:49 |  #3

DigiGrin wrote in post #3705464 (external link)
Pretty stoked for you .. and totally jealous! :lol:
I want almost the same set-up myself .. but I wanna be off camera with the Q.
Before someone else asks, and they will, annnnd, you don't mind ..
Whud ya spend? :oops:

Thanks!

The Qflash package is here (external link).

The bracket is here (external link).

Other littme misc stuff was necessary for the bracket, so add about another 100



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Aug 10, 2007 21:44 |  #4

Goodluck, and remember the QFlash on Auto tends to over expose (for me at least) so check often and adjust as nessary.

I have the exact setup by the way, but different bracket.


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Aug 16, 2007 06:31 |  #5

Scott - you can now add the Qflash to your gear list! I find it works quite well on QTTL for me, but you can switch to Auto with a button press or two. I have QTTL as P1, Auto as P2 and a Manual setting of approximately the right power on P3 when I use my Qflash on bracket. The other programs are cleared. That way, I just have to step between the programs to choose the appropriate mode.

You may find it helpful to wind some of the cable between the QTTL module and the Qflash around the base of the flash or the arm of the bracket - it helps keep it out of the way. That cable is really a bit long.


DigiGrin - you have to have the Qflash on a bracket, or completely off camera - you can't shoe mount it. Most people seem to use these flashes on either a Newton bracket or Custom Brackets bracket with the appropriate flash plate from the bracket manufacturer.

You will need the QTTL module as well as the B&H item that Scott mentioned (which is just the flash, battery and charger) - that's D13w-R at the moment, though D13C will soon be with us, which adds 1D Mark III compatibility. D13w-R can be upgraded to D13C, but it costs. You may also want to buy some of the additional modifiers - I've mentioned them in this thread.


Qflashes are great units for sure - if a little pricey and bulky.

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Aug 16, 2007 07:20 |  #6

Thanks to david for pointing me to this thread.

Thanks to the OP for posting those pictures. That's exactly what I've been wanting to see.

BTW, have you posted shots of the wedding you shot with it? How did it work out?

One more question (and thank you David again). The salesman at B&H who really had no clue, told me you use what appears to be a household ac plug to connect to the camera. That does not appear to be the way you are connected.
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Aug 16, 2007 07:22 |  #7

Also, I can't tell from the first picture, but please tell me you DON'T have the battery attached to the bracket. That would be way too heavy, no?

Oh, and just out of curiousity, why didn't you go with the smaller battery, the SC?




  
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Aug 16, 2007 07:55 |  #8

DavidW wrote in post #3736861 (external link)
Scott - you can now add the Qflash to your gear list! I find it works quite well on QTTL for me, but you can switch to Auto with a button press or two. I have QTTL as P1, Auto as P2 and a Manual setting of approximately the right power on P3 when I use my Qflash on bracket. The other programs are cleared. That way, I just have to step between the programs to choose the appropriate mode.

You may find it helpful to wind some of the cable between the QTTL module and the Qflash around the base of the flash or the arm of the bracket - it helps keep it out of the way. That cable is really a bit long.


DigiGrin - you have to have the Qflash on a bracket, or completely off camera - you can't shoe mount it. Most people seem to use these flashes on either a Newton bracket or Custom Brackets bracket with the appropriate flash plate from the bracket manufacturer.

You will need the QTTL module as well as the B&H item that Scott mentioned (which is just the flash, battery and charger) - that's D13w-R at the moment, though D13C will soon be with us, which adds 1D Mark III compatibility. D13w-R can be upgraded to D13C, but it costs. You may also want to buy some of the additional modifiers - I've mentioned them in this thread.


Qflashes are great units for sure - if a little pricey and bulky.

David

Just curious where the D13C designation came from since all the references I've seen for it is D23w-R (http://www.qtm.com …&cn=EOS%201D%20​Mark%20III (external link)).


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Aug 16, 2007 08:31 |  #9

I think Quantum have changed their mind on the designation, PacAce. D13C was the original announcement (as in "D13C if you have a 1D Mark III", which is my precis of the original announcement that was on the Quantum home page), but it looks like it's going to be D23w-R after all.

This keeps with the w-R = wireless and ratio capable bit, but breaks the D13 = Canon.


The UK distributors, Flaghead, have come up with the wonderful announcement here (external link):

Flaghead Photographic wrote:
="Flaghead Photographic"]NEW CANON TTL ADAPTER D23W-R FOR QFLASH

Due to a software change in the new Canon EOS 1D MKIII a new TTL adapter D23W-R will shortly be available! Any existing D13 series TTL adapter for the Qflash system can be up-graded to the C version. Please contact us for details.

I take it that this was talking about the "C" version and D13C, then Quantum changed their mind and called it the D23w-R instead, only Flaghead haven't edited all parts of their announcement.


In my previous posts, where I wrote D13C, read D23w-R - thanks Quantum! I'll hold off a little while, then contact Flaghead about the free upgrade that I've been promised as a recent purchaser of D13w-R.

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Aug 16, 2007 08:42 |  #10

MDJAK wrote in post #3737006 (external link)
One more question (and thank you David again). The salesman at B&H who really had no clue, told me you use what appears to be a household ac plug to connect to the camera. That does not appear to be the way you are connected.

A PC to household plug lead will only give you a sync signal. That's not really what you want - no TTL, and you have to transfer ISO and aperture settings manually to the Qflash for Auto.

The D23wR (that's its real designation - D13C was an interim designation, it seems) is what you want - that plugs in to one of the accessory sockets on the Qflash, and screws down into the hotshoe. That gives you an AF assist light, first/second curtain switch, fill ratio dial, TTL functionality, and automatic transfer of aperture and ISO for auto flash use. The older D13wR will not work with the 1D Mark III until it's upgraded to the D23wR software.

(Sometimes the QTTL module part numbers are written with dashes, sometimes they're written without - without actually seems more common).


I don't think the battery pack is attached to the bracket - I think it's just placed in front. The advantage of the 2x2 is the longest battery life of any Turbo (nearly double the number of full power Qflash shots of the SC - 400 for the 2x2, 225 for the SC), also it gives the fastest recycle speeds - see the comparison chart at the bottom of the Turbo page on the Quantum site (external link). However, the 2x2 is nearly twice as heavy as the SC.

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Aug 16, 2007 13:00 |  #11

DavidW wrote in post #3737262 (external link)
I think Quantum have changed their mind on the designation, PacAce. D13C was the original announcement (as in "D13C if you have a 1D Mark III", which is my precis of the original announcement that was on the Quantum home page), but it looks like it's going to be D23w-R after all.

This keeps with the w-R = wireless and ratio capable bit, but breaks the D13 = Canon.


The UK distributors, Flaghead, have come up with the wonderful announcement here (external link):


I take it that this was talking about the "C" version and D13C, then Quantum changed their mind and called it the D23w-R instead, only Flaghead haven't edited all parts of their announcement.


In my previous posts, where I wrote D13C, read D23w-R - thanks Quantum! I'll hold off a little while, then contact Flaghead about the free upgrade that I've been promised as a recent purchaser of D13w-R.

David

Thanks for the clarification, David. That clears up nicely. I'm even thinking now that maybe they'll continue to use the D13C designations for any of the older D13 modules that they update while using the D23w-R designation for the brand new modules.


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Aug 16, 2007 13:07 |  #12

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Aug 16, 2007 13:09 |  #13

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Aug 16, 2007 13:11 |  #14

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Aug 16, 2007 17:27 |  #15

DavidW wrote in post #3736861 (external link)
DigiGrin - you have to have the Qflash on a bracket, or completely off camera - you can't shoe mount it. Most people seem to use these flashes on either a Newton bracket or Custom Brackets bracket with the appropriate flash plate from the bracket manufacturer.

Thanks David .. I was actually thinking more along the lines of what Metz makes
for their flashes .. just a simple bracket that attaches to the camera .. and the flash
slides on to .. however .. when I do most formals .. I'm camera mounted to my Bogen ..
and I hand hold the Metz .. up high .. but when I'm *roaming* at a wedding
I mount the Metz to it's OEM bracket .. and work with it like that ..

I'm guessing that the Q folks have an OEM bracket to offer something similar to Metz?


  
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