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Dec 01, 2007 15:40 |  #31

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From what I have read, it was the standard for TV screens back in the '60s when the EXif standard was first formulated. I don't think it applies to either CRT or LCD monitors.

PPI doesn't apply to NTSC TV, for the simple reason that horizontal data is analog, not digital. There are no dots horizontally. Each line is a continuous sweep.

The NTSC standard for vertical resolution is 525 lines interlaced - 262.5 lines in one field, 262.5 in the next. The two fields refresh at a 30 Hz rate.

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I notice that Paint Shop Pro defaults to 180 PPI.

A point nobody has mentioned, that I've noticed: DPI means nothing on an inkjet printer, either. Well, not exactly nothing - but it's fixed. My cheap (but surprisingly high quality) Canon PIXMA 4000 has 1000 DPI, as I recall. That's the number of ink dots per inch.

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Dec 13, 2007 11:14 |  #32

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Actually I believe it is the standard for monitors, specifically most LCDs (although some montiors use 96 PPI).

But really it does not matter. Here is some great info as well:

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Dec 13, 2007 11:16 |  #33

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Overall I recommend people stop thinking and worrying so much and just print their images. Prints are cheap. Crop it and print it smaller if you want to. As with most things in photography the rule of "try it yourself and make up your own mind" is the best way to approach things.

Keywords (just in case anyone actually uses the search): large, big, enlarge, print, printing

This probably saved me about 2-3 years of learning! Thanks! Excellent writting. Maybe we all should add our experiences with print labs in our countries.


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Jan 13, 2008 10:22 |  #34

Tim, with the technique of changing the ppi without changing the number of pixels, it did not work for me.

I tried this with the images that i submitted before but was rejected coz of less than 300ppi, still it was not accepted.:cry:




  
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Jan 13, 2008 11:01 as a reply to  @ cyrillo07's post |  #35

You need to get a program like Genuine Fractals if your interested in quality. I have a very good friend that the head of the photography program ant a local college and teaches basic thru advacened photoshop. He is the one that put me onto it and it makes a HUGE difference. I have to work with professional printers all the time and so does my wife and we have to deal with these issues. You can bump the size in photoshop but what happens is the info is not there so photoshop trys to fill in the areas by creating its own pixels. This degrades the image. Genuine Fractals is a program that works as a plug in and is designed to bump up image size without allot of loss.
http://www.ononesoftwa​re.com/detail.php?prod​Line_id=2 (external link)
Don the photography professor thats a good friend of mine has his classes bump prints up in photoshop and then using GF. You can see a major difference. Proper tool for the job.




  
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Jan 13, 2008 14:20 |  #36

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Tim, with the technique of changing the ppi without changing the number of pixels, it did not work for me.

I tried this with the images that i submitted before but was rejected coz of less than 300ppi, still it was not accepted.:cry:

You probably needed to change the number of pixels. Places that you submit work to usually want 300ppi and a minimum number of pixels.

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You need to get a program like Genuine Fractals if your interested in quality. I have a very good friend that the head of the photography program ant a local college and teaches basic thru advacened photoshop. He is the one that put me onto it and it makes a HUGE difference. I have to work with professional printers all the time and so does my wife and we have to deal with these issues. You can bump the size in photoshop but what happens is the info is not there so photoshop trys to fill in the areas by creating its own pixels. This degrades the image. Genuine Fractals is a program that works as a plug in and is designed to bump up image size without allot of loss.
http://www.ononesoftwa​re.com/detail.php?prod​Line_id=2 (external link)
Don the photography professor thats a good friend of mine has his classes bump prints up in photoshop and then using GF. You can see a major difference. Proper tool for the job.

This is a valid position, something people need to look at themselves using sample versions of software to decide. I personally don't see a need for GF. Each to their own, and i'd rather this thread didn't turn into a PS vs GF thread.


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Jan 13, 2008 15:44 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #37

Its not they're two very different tools.




  
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Jan 15, 2008 22:23 |  #38

[QUOTE=tim;4694691]You probably needed to change the number of pixels. Places that you submit work to usually want 300ppi and a minimum number of pixels.

I'm using Adoramapix Tim. They are requiring only the resolution of at least 300ppi, but still the largest that i can print is only 8X10.




  
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Jan 15, 2008 23:02 |  #39

Best start a thread rather than pollute an FAQ with questions.


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Jan 23, 2008 21:00 as a reply to  @ post 4080355 |  #40

maybe i repeating things here,sorry if thats the case,i took some pictures of a wrestling team,individual pictures,lots of people ordered 8x10 pics,when i go to print them are you saying there is no way to get the whole pic without cutting top or bottom? i even left my photos uncropped from my camera to CS3 with alot of room round subjects and it is still cutting off feet, driving me nuts...HELP...also i read your thread i put the 8 and 10 in toolbar and recropped, i wanna know if there is a way to resize teh WHOLE PICTURE as is ?




  
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Jan 23, 2008 21:01 |  #41

Nope, you can't print the whole picture on an 8x10 sheet without either cropping the image, or adding black or white bars at the top or bottom.

Please ask questions on new threads, not on the FAQ thread.


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Jan 23, 2008 21:06 |  #42

You can resize a photo straight out of the camera to fit an 8x10 print without cutting anything off the top or bottom, but you'll have blank space on the sides.


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Jan 23, 2008 23:57 |  #43

airfrogusmc wrote in post #4693653 (external link)
Genuine Fractals is a program that works as a plug in and is designed to bump up image size without allot of loss.
http://www.ononesoftwa​re.com/detail.php?prod​Line_id=2 (external link)
Don the photography professor thats a good friend of mine has his classes bump prints up in photoshop and then using GF. You can see a major difference. Proper tool for the job.

WOW! that is a plug-in camera makers don't want you to see. I just D/L the demo to give it a ride.


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Mar 11, 2008 20:28 |  #44

the JPEG TIFF for printing is handy as i have always been giving TIFF and well yeah 400mg files are just to much


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Apr 15, 2008 10:14 |  #45

Should I enlarge myself or let the lab do it?

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