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Aug 20, 2007 20:48 |  #1

Hey all - a friend loaned me his 70-200 + TC 2 and I thought I would at least try this BIF thing. Much harder than I thought - started out mainly trying on white egrets but they were all OOF and blown out :-( Had a little more sucess with this brown pelican (probably because he was a lot slower!!). I certainly learned a lot and think I have a plan for the white guys if I'm able to borrow this setup again. C&C and tips more than welcome. All shots taken with my Xti.

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Aug 20, 2007 21:22 |  #2

Good shots of a bird we don't see to much of here. Shooting birds in flight is a challenge that many here make it look easier than it is. Since I like to mess with things I did a little bit of editing. Not sure if it though.


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Aug 20, 2007 21:52 |  #3

Thanks rw2 like the edits - they certainly bring out more detail. So you think these are underexposed basically I take it (well that and these were not taken in the best of light), I know for the egrets I'm going to have to cut the exposure down as they were blown out even in the early morning -- maybe a different metering mode would help?




  
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Aug 21, 2007 01:54 |  #4

Great shots, my first BIF photos are... well... nowhere near as good as these! :)


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Aug 21, 2007 13:02 |  #5

Thanks Grimm -- well I didn't post the egret shots.... talk about BAD.... Working on a checklist for next time around.




  
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Aug 21, 2007 13:22 |  #6

I really like #2, especially the editted version! Nice BIF shots...


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Aug 21, 2007 20:48 |  #7

Thanks Zippy and I agree the edit is much better.




  
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Aug 21, 2007 20:57 |  #8

You got the wing tips, feet and end of the beak all inside the frame. That's the hard part. You've got the mechanics down.

Read your book for the XTi and figure out how to set exposure compensation in Av Mode, and set for AI Focus. For white birds, set Ev to the plus side, from 2/3 to 1 1/3 to start. For dark birds, set to the minus side. Set metering to Evaluative. Use those settings for a day and practice. You'll see improvement right away. :)


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Aug 21, 2007 21:07 |  #9

THANK YOU very much Canonloader -- that's what I meant by tips!!! Revising the checklist now :-)




  
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Aug 21, 2007 21:12 |  #10

Your welcome. I just paid back some kind soul that got me started on those setting. And I still use them, with ISO and aperture adjustments only. :)

Oh yeah, start shooting in RAW only. You won't regret that either. :)


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Aug 21, 2007 21:16 |  #11

canonloader wrote in post #3771340 (external link)
You got the wing tips, feet and end of the beak all inside the frame. That's the hard part. You've got the mechanics down.

Read your book for the XTi and figure out how to set exposure compensation in Av Mode, and set for AI Focus. For white birds, set Ev to the plus side, from 2/3 to 1 1/3 to start. For dark birds, set to the minus side. Set metering to Evaluative. Use those settings for a day and practice. You'll see improvement right away. :)

Question! Why not use partial metering? Would you not want your main subject to be metered? If you have a dark subject and light background Would you not underexpose the subject and if you had a light subject and dark background would you not overexpose the subject?


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Aug 21, 2007 21:48 |  #12

Experiment with both. I've just had good results from using Evaluative. The camera algorythms are pretty good. :)


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Aug 21, 2007 21:49 |  #13

Thanks I'll try your suggestion. Your shots speak for themselves!


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