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Canon, I want a web-oriented EOS SLR.

 
droosan
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Jul 03, 2002 07:22 |  #1

My situation:
I have a bunch of Canon EF Lenses, filters, flashes...
I am a web developer. I can't afford a 1D.

I would like to be able to use the whole lens, not 62% of it. (If I end up getting the D60, my widest lens will be equivalent to 38mm(24mm))

For the web I don't need 6MP. 2MP would be just fine.

The G2 doesn't suit my needs. For websites, I need to be able to photograph volleyball as well as earrings.

Another desire: Firewire.

Put it all together I would like a digital EOS SLR with
- a capture plane near to 35mm size,
- a low density CCD,
- a lower price.

I think such a camera would be useful to a lot of people. What do you think?




  
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mrchips
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Jul 03, 2002 07:46 |  #2

I have a feeling your in a minority with those wishes. For shooting smaller files the D60 has many modes some like the small jpg. are .5 MB output files.
As for a full size CMOS It will probably be quite a while for that at a cheap price.

As shown with the quality and noise in the Contax N1 output, manufactuer of a full size reliable and cheap CCD is a long way off . From the developments I see the multilayer CMOS is the sensor of the future. I have learned to live with the 1.6x factor.

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droosan
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Jul 03, 2002 08:33 |  #3

I guess I don't really understand why big (in terms of CCD's or CMOS's) is expensive. I understand that dense is expensive. Going from D30 to D60 Canon doubled the pixel density. Why didn't they just keep the same density and double the plane size?

In anything else technology-wise it seems that making it small is expensive. Why is this the other way around?

By the way, what is the focal length factor of Nikon cameras, like the D1x and D100? I couldn't find it in the reviews. Not that I want one, but the way Nikon goes, so goes Canon, and vice-versa.

I don't want to "live with" 1.6. A lens that would give me the equivalent width of my 24mm would cost $1800, weigh over a lb, would not accept a polarizer, and would be optically inferior. (EF 14mm f/2.8)

Thanks for responding.

Is the Contax CCD poor quality?




  
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mrchips
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Jul 03, 2002 09:00 |  #4

Smaller is better because the larger the pixel, the MORE eletrical noise. Thats why canon went with more pixels in the same size sensor. It lowered electrical noise and also lowered cost, aka the D60 is $800 less than the D 30 was.

I have a Sigma 17-35 (27-56) and its all the wide angle I need. I picked it up for 439. Its a great lens and takes filters.

If CMOS technology is the same as most computer technology growth wise, I would expect a 12.5 MB in 1 to 2 years and 25 MP in 4 to 5 years. The 25 MP sensor will probably be close to 35 size or larger. Kodak went with a square sensor in its 16 MP digital back ($25,000)

FYI The Nikons are 1.5

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Jul 03, 2002 09:36 |  #5

Thanks again.

Does the D30 have a problem with noise? I have been hoping to find one 2nd-hand cheap, but they are holding their value annoying well.

What is the aperture of your Sigma zoom? Have you noticed vignetting problems with filters?




  
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Jul 03, 2002 11:07 |  #6

droosan wrote:
Thanks again.

I have been hoping to find one 2nd-hand cheap, but they are holding their value annoying well.

The reason they are holding their value is because it is an excellent camera.

for the type of work you want it for it will be a bargain at whatever price.

If you look at my website (go to previous gallerys and then robins fc photos when you get to the site) you will see i have taken action photos of Football matches, and also aircraft in flight and a more sedate canal boat.
an incredible camera, i just wish i was as good a photographer as some on this forum with a D30.

Hope this helps.


UK_Terry

http://www.terrytruema​n.co.uk (external link)

  
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mrchips
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Jul 03, 2002 11:26 |  #7

Lens has 82 mm filters so it has never shown as a problem.

f2.8-4 EX Aspherical




  
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