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my 70-200 f/4 L is has arrived

 
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Aug 24, 2007 13:53 |  #16

Even Ken Rockwell loves it :D. congrats


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Aug 24, 2007 14:07 as a reply to  @ farrukh's post |  #17

Congrats on the new babies guys. :)


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Vitruvius
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Aug 24, 2007 15:12 |  #18

One of my test pics:

1/500 @ F4 ISO 200 focused on the center leaf.

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Pretty lame really... I live on the water, not a single animal, let alone a duck or bird to be seen. Its too hot when even the wildlife wont come out...

As for the lens... I love the bokeh its amazing compared with my 70-300 not to mention the sharpness and I was pretty surprised how quick the AF was. I dont think I have contracted the "fever" yet but damn if these aren't some great symptoms.

This plant was fairly close to the fence too, shot wide open the separation is really distinct.



  
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Bill ­ Aanestad
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Aug 24, 2007 15:20 |  #19

Does the Canon f2.8 70-200 IS lens work WELL on the 20D body?

Guess I don't know where to post this, exactly. But need help!

I'm an amateur shutterbug getting quite a bit more serious about this hobby of photography. Well ... I'm also confused by what a sales rep told me when I wanted to purchase the Canon 70-200 f2.8 IS lens online. Namely that on a 20D camera the lens would act like a f4.5 and have cropped fields do to the 1.6 factor of the camera. He wanted to put me into a "new" Sigma 70-200 f2.8 that would remain a f2.8 with no cropping on the 20D. He said the lens was different fom the Sigma 70-200 lenses offered by many other sources for less than $900.00. His list price for the recommended Sigma lens was $1999.00 ... but, of course he had a sale price today for $1550 ... including a UV filter and a polaroid filter.

Please set me straight. I want the best final result. Tanks for your input!




  
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Vitruvius
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Aug 24, 2007 15:26 |  #20

I'm thinking that the salesman was a real sheister.




  
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Aug 24, 2007 15:39 |  #21

Bill Aanestad wrote in post #3789603 (external link)
Does the Canon f2.8 70-200 IS lens work WELL on the 20D body?

Guess I don't know where to post this, exactly. But need help!

I'm an amateur shutterbug getting quite a bit more serious about this hobby of photography. Well ... I'm also confused by what a sales rep told me when I wanted to purchase the Canon 70-200 f2.8 IS lens online. Namely that on a 20D camera the lens would act like a f4.5 and have cropped fields do to the 1.6 factor of the camera. He wanted to put me into a "new" Sigma 70-200 f2.8 that would remain a f2.8 with no cropping on the 20D. He said the lens was different fom the Sigma 70-200 lenses offered by many other sources for less than $900.00. His list price for the recommended Sigma lens was $1999.00 ... but, of course he had a sale price today for $1550 ... including a UV filter and a polaroid filter.

Please set me straight. I want the best final result. Tanks for your input!

I would go back and report the guy to the owner. If he is the owner of the store I would go there and tell him I would never be back and recommend everybody I know not to go and visit his store.

A 20D is a crop or APS-C camera, yes, and the crop factor is 1.6X. Essentially he tried to use some of his knowledge to try and talk you into shelling out way too much money essentially to stuff his own pocket, by telling half-truths and plain lies.

An F/2.8 lens will always be an F/2.8 lens, whether you use it on a 20D, a 1D series body (APS-H), or a 1Ds (FF). The difference with FF is that because of the crop factor, to get the same image in the view finder, you also have to step back quite a bit, and that increases, at the same aperture, the DoF. From that point of view, and that point of view only, with a crop camera with an F/2.8 lens designed for FF, will act as if the aperture has been closed 1.6 f-stops as well. So he was wrong too, because it is more like F/4.9 or F/4.8. But this is for DoF only. The lens is still an F/2.8, and gathers light like an F/2.8.

And that Sigma is absolutely no different than any other similar Sigma out there, that you'd get for $900. So, essentially, he wants you to pay $650 for what is likely a $10 UV-filter and a $20 polarizer.

I really get angry when I hear about salespeople talking BS and c**p like this.

So, do yourself a favour, and get any of the Canon 70-200Ls, with a decent UV-filter and polafilter if you want them, from, f.e., B&H Photo Video, and avoid this c**pshooter like you would avoid hell.

Kind regards, Wim


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Aug 24, 2007 16:09 |  #22

Thanks, Wim for the quick and comprehensive reply. My PROBLEM is SOLVED.
I have sent details of my conversation with sales fellow (and his company) ... as requested by Customer Service at Sigma ... to Sigma.

I won't be replying to any more responses. Problem solved. Thanks a bunch!




  
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Aug 24, 2007 16:31 |  #23

congrats on your new lens


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Aug 24, 2007 17:48 |  #24

Congrats on the new lens. You'll love it.


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Aug 24, 2007 19:33 |  #25

Great lens....more pics please.


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Aug 24, 2007 19:55 |  #26

Its a fantastic lens :) Congrats guys! Now prepare to be broke from now on as the Lcoholism kicks in. :lol:


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Aug 24, 2007 22:05 |  #27

Few more shots today:

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Oh yeah I even have a PotN strap enroute.



  
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Aug 25, 2007 05:44 |  #28

Bill Aanestad wrote in post #3789603 (external link)
Does the Canon f2.8 70-200 IS lens work WELL on the 20D body?

Guess I don't know where to post this, exactly. But need help!

I'm an amateur shutterbug getting quite a bit more serious about this hobby of photography. Well ... I'm also confused by what a sales rep told me when I wanted to purchase the Canon 70-200 f2.8 IS lens online. Namely that on a 20D camera the lens would act like a f4.5 and have cropped fields do to the 1.6 factor of the camera. He wanted to put me into a "new" Sigma 70-200 f2.8 that would remain a f2.8 with no cropping on the 20D. He said the lens was different fom the Sigma 70-200 lenses offered by many other sources for less than $900.00. His list price for the recommended Sigma lens was $1999.00 ... but, of course he had a sale price today for $1550 ... including a UV filter and a polaroid filter.

Please set me straight. I want the best final result. Tanks for your input!

This is one shop to leave alone...!!

1) The 70-200 2.8L IS will work perfectly on you 20D!
(Crop factor is only for the focal length 70 x 1.6 .... 200 x 1.6)!
The 2.8 will remain 2.8!
2) Nothing wrong with a Sigma 70-200 2.8.... but the 70-200 2.8 from canon
with or without the IS will be better!


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Aug 25, 2007 05:55 |  #29

Overkill wrote in post #3793258 (external link)
2) Nothing wrong with a Sigma 70-200 2.8.... but the 70-200 2.8 from canon with or without the IS will be better!

Or not.

But we won't go there :D


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Aug 25, 2007 07:33 |  #30

200 2.8 L is better if you don't need zoom ;)


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