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White Balance / Gray Card / Exposure

 
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Aug 26, 2007 14:19 |  #1

Hiya folks, long time lurker, first time poster...Thanks for all the info you've unknowingly imparted to me.
So, about the white balance...Is it correct to say that a gray card is to be used to determine the proper exposure only? It should not be used to set white balance? I'm not sure why one would photo a gray card to set white balance instead of a known white...If using a color picker in PP, should one be choosing a white or a gray? Sorry for the convoluted route to asking the question, but it's all jumbled up in my head right now.:confused:
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Aug 26, 2007 15:42 |  #2

You can use either a gray reference card or a white reference card as a white-balance reference, assuming that both are truly "neutral" (all colors have equal level). However.....

The best choice - white or gray - depends on precisely how you would use a reference card.

If you are doing a "custom white balance", then either is suitable because you will be taking a photo of the card with your exposure settings attempting to make either look like a mid-gray in the image.

If, however, you are placing the reference card into a scene and taking a shot with the exposure controls set for the overall scene then a gray card is usually better than white. The reason is that it would be easy for the white card to be overexposed in this situation and that would render one or more channels "blown out", essentially making the card no longer "neutral".


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Aug 26, 2007 16:01 |  #3

While we're at it, does the 18% gray card need to take up the entire viewfinder or just the center af point to set custom wb?


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Aug 26, 2007 16:38 |  #4

Matt57 wrote in post #3800856 (external link)
While we're at it, does the 18% gray card need to take up the entire viewfinder or just the center af point to set custom wb?

There's a picture on page 86 of the XTi/400D manual that shows how much it needs to cover. Basically the whole area inside of the 7 central AF points.




  
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Aug 26, 2007 19:43 |  #5

SkipD wrote in post #3800757 (external link)
You can use either a gray reference card or a white reference card as a white-balance reference, assuming that both are truly "neutral" (all colors have equal level). However.....

The best choice - white or gray - depends on precisely how you would use a reference card.

If you are doing a "custom white balance", then either is suitable because you will be taking a photo of the card with your exposure settings attempting to make either look like a mid-gray in the image.

If, however, you are placing the reference card into a scene and taking a shot with the exposure controls set for the overall scene then a gray card is usually better than white. The reason is that it would be easy for the white card to be overexposed in this situation and that would render one or more channels "blown out", essentially making the card no longer "neutral".

Is this to say that if one takes a pic of a white or gray card, there will be no difference in the outcome? Both white and gray "samples" will produce the same images? How does this affect the exposure? I would imagine a white sheet of paper would reflect more, brighter light resulting in a lower in-camera exposure setting. I would think a gray card would ask for a "longer" exposure.


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Aug 26, 2007 20:07 |  #6

EWek11 wrote in post #3801959 (external link)
Is this to say that if one takes a pic of a white or gray card, there will be no difference in the outcome? Both white and gray "samples" will produce the same images? How does this affect the exposure? I would imagine a white sheet of paper would reflect more, brighter light resulting in a lower in-camera exposure setting. I would think a gray card would ask for a "longer" exposure.

If you are using a reference card for a "custom white balance", you expose for the reference card (ignoring the scene you will be shooting). That will make the image look like the card is medium gray, no matter what the card looks like to you. Thus, you won't be overexposing the reference card.


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Aug 27, 2007 10:45 |  #7

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