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Aug 29, 2007 09:51 |  #1

I recently went to a work party and decided to try out something new to get a better look to the flash photography.

So, these are at 1600ISO, f/4 and 1/50 and letting ETTL light the subjects. Comments regarding technique and processing would be appreciated here.

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Aug 29, 2007 11:51 |  #2

Pete, just curious, why ISO1600?? Is this a 580EX or a 430EX? I am sure the flash has enough power to bounce it off the ceiling at iso400, 1/100 and f4.

That being said, your ISO1600 shots are freaking amazing and the images are crisp and have a nice 3D feel to them.


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Aug 29, 2007 11:56 |  #3

I used ISO1600, wide open and slow shutter to expose the background. If I'd just let the flash do the work, the subject would have been exposed, but the background would have been really dark. (This shot was with flash only http://www.the-aperture.com …s/normal/6ba_IM​G_6671.jpg (external link) - as you can see, the background is dark and featureless)

I've learnt recently that working with the flash is a combination of two exposures, one for the ambient, and the other lit by the flash. The shots are a balance of the two. I simply went into manual mode, selected settings that allowed the background to be exposed (without the flash), and the ETTL nicely filled in/froze the subjects.


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Aug 29, 2007 12:20 |  #4

You've nailed it...those are great shots! They've cleaned up pretty good...what did you use to get rid of noise?

I'd say you can even go with a slower shutter speed, if you use the flash straight ahead...flash will stop motion of the subject (if not moving really fast) and get even more light in from the background...

This below is a shot at ISO 1600, 1/10, f/2.8 - (Sigma 20mm f/1.8 lens) on my XTi. The background was EXTREMELY DARK...


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Aug 29, 2007 12:21 |  #5

The WB looks off, which looks like it is due to the lighting in the room...
Did you bounce your flash for these?




  
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Aug 29, 2007 12:23 |  #6

Ok, I just looked at your shots again...

Never mind my comment...my shot sucks compared to yours...hehehehe! :)

Good thing I don't call myself a pro. :D


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Aug 29, 2007 12:24 |  #7

deltroid wrote in post #3820873 (external link)
You've nailed it...those are great shots! They've cleaned up pretty good...what did you use to get rid of noise?

In most of the shots, I didn't bother with any third party NR, they came out the camera that way. I don't really like using NR as I find it smoothes fine detail.

I didn't see the need for a slower shutter speed, there wasn't much movement around that I wanted to show off, so I wanted relatively sharp images. A slower SS might have led to ghosting effects.


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Aug 29, 2007 12:27 |  #8

MelisaP wrote in post #3820881 (external link)
The WB looks off, which looks like it is due to the lighting in the room...
Did you bounce your flash for these?

No, it was mostly direct flash diffused with a Stoffen, the ceiling was pretty high (or none at all outside) and I didn't want to keep fiddling with the flash direction as I was floating around taking candids.

Yeah, the WB might technically be off, but I prefer the warmer feel - cooling the WB seemed to cool the mood, something I didn't want.


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Aug 29, 2007 12:57 |  #9

They look great to me! I think everything was dead on for what you wanted to do.




  
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Aug 29, 2007 15:38 |  #10

Wow...these are great.
I can only dream of being able to use my camera and flash and high shutter speeds and not tell that you used a flash.
You really can't. They turned out really well. Everyone seemed to be having a jolly good time also.


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Aug 29, 2007 15:40 |  #11

great job! I'm so glad you posted this!
I'm shooting my first birthday event this weekend and I'm nervous!
My 2nd time shooting with the flash also so seeing what you did helps me out bunches!




  
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Aug 29, 2007 15:44 |  #12

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great job! I'm so glad you posted this!
I'm shooting my first birthday event this weekend and I'm nervous!
My 2nd time shooting with the flash also so seeing what you did helps me out bunches!

No problem. Just remember to more or less expose for the ambient light (a few stops underexposed will be fine) and let the flash just perform the fillin.

This is from a practice session in my garage to make sure I had the technique.

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Aug 29, 2007 15:45 |  #13

What his name?

LOL thats great. Nice idea. Are those car sponges?


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Aug 29, 2007 15:48 |  #14

Yeah, they are. I figured that hanging those up and swinging them round would be a fairly good representation of what I wanted (it's fairly dark in there as well). It meant that on the night, I wasn't fumbling around. I just set it up and started shooting.


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Aug 29, 2007 15:50 |  #15

It looks like the one in the background had already started drinking.


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