1DS mk111

GyRob wrote in post #3846554
if you crop the 22mp to give a field of view of a 1.6crop camera how many mp,s will that be and what if you crop it to 1.3 ?
Rob.

FF cropped to 1.6 yields 39% of the area, so 8.6 mp.
FF cropped to 1.3 yields 59% of the area, so 13.0 mp.

-js

A 1DS III will be hard to beat unless you are always focal length limited.

Pixels 'on target' list for you.

95 - D30
121 - 5D (example 4368/36=121)
122 - 1D MK IIN
135 - 1D MK III
135 - Rebel/300
138 - 1Ds MK II
155 - 20D/30D
156 - 1DS MK III
175 - XTI and 40D

tobers, you only live once man so get it and enjoy it

tobers yes having the best really appeals my freind. all that powerrrrrrr

i dont think the 40d even holds that much more excitement rthan the 20d. Is it really still an upgrade??

Nick_C wrote in post #3846489
Imagine when cameras reach 500mp + no need for long lenses anymore, just CROP away!

Given that we stay within the current mechanism for gathering light...

The theoretical limit for a 35mm sized sensor is around 200MP, This presumes perfect light collection. More pixels then that and you either lose red light, followed by green and then blue or you have to make a bigger sensor.

Then there is the practical limit. - The reason for this is physics; red light has a wavelength of around 700nm (0.7um ) currently even the P&S/phone cameras with the most pixels are approaching 2.0um. They tend to be very noisy.

So from a practical point 22-25MP seems to be the point at which ISO will start dropping if you go beyond and probably around 50MP will be the final practical limit for a 35mm format sensor. So The 1DsMkIII is probably very close to the practical limit for the sensors. They may go higher but not by much, otherwise we must go to medium format system.

There are some theoretical ways to go beyond this limit, but it would require micro-chip processing power far beyond what we have available today.

Just what I know about physics and what I was told by some image scientists a few years back.

Not only that, but is there any lens in the world that can resolve the difference between 300MP and 500MP without being the size of a silo?

To add that, I wonder how many of Canon's lenses the 1Ds MKIII out resolves? Maybe even a couple of L's.

Tobers wrote in post #3846123
Yeoness - I share your pain! I have a 30D which is actually very good, but I've got a dreadful lusting for a 1Ds3. I'm not kidding here, I actually dream about it. How wierd (or sad??) is that.

I know it wouldn't help my composition at all, I never print anything larger than A3, and I'm not a pro, but I just really want one. There is something about having "the ultimate" that really appeals. I doubt I need a gazillion focus points (the one in the middle does me just fine), and 22mp is just outrageous.

It's a shed-load of cash. £6k here in the UK!! (should be £4k at the current exchange rate so I doubt I'll buy it here). Plus I'll need a 16-35 and a 24-70 as well which will add to the price a touch. But wow, what a camera.

I'd probably have to start doing weddings or suchlike to pay for it, but who cares. I WANT ONE!!!!

I'm the same with the 85L II. I don't need one, can't justify the cost, and my photography skills just aren't up to it. But I WANT one I dream about getting one for my birthday etc....

There is a 3 month old one for sale at a local camera store at a good price (around NZ$1000 less than new) that I am soooooooo tempted by.

I'll probably end up with the 85 1.8, but even then I will still want the L, but at least I won't have to sleep on the couch.

If you can afford it, I say get the 1Ds MkIII, you only live once! (I may just be saying that to help me rationalise the 85L:p, and glass doesn't loose value like bodies do......ummm....I'm trying....)

i would say that there are many cameras in between the 20d and 1ds3. if you're not a pro, i think spending 8 grand on just a body is nuts (unless you're independently wealthy). If nothing else, those dollars should definitely be spent on glass first, and if you try to use anything but top of the line L glass, it'll really show in your shots.

if you want to go full frame, you can get a used 5d for damn cheap. or wait for the updated version (yup, prolly around 17mp, 3" screen, and a couple of gimmicks). until then, spend some of that money on some glass and enjoy that now.

good advice guys and gals thanks:p

number six wrote in post #3846595
FF cropped to 1.6 yields 39% of the area, so 8.6 mp.
FF cropped to 1.3 yields 59% of the area, so 13.0 mp.

-js

thanks for that
this becomes rather intresting moreso with the 1.3 crop of 13.0mp thats higher than my mk3 .
it looks like the 1dsmk3 could be THE camera of all cameras of this sensor size
Rob.

yeoness wrote in post #3845942
Been reading some of the other threads on this but im tempted by the 1DS 111. Its a huge block of dough to spend when im not a professional.
I love wildlife and currently own the 20D which has been a truely superb camera. I want to upgrade and must confess my camera is bolted to my side wherever i go SO can someone guide me please?

Ok, I'm gonna take a different approach than the rest of the replies.

It sounds like you'd like the 1Ds MKIII..... and you're looking for support in getting one. What it has to offer over your 20D really isn't important, as long as you aren't taking a step backwards. Which you aren't.

Do you have the money? I know it's big bucks.... can you afford the expenditure? If so, then go straight to the camera store and plop down your deposit and get in line.

I look at these kinds of purchases (hobbyist purchases) as personal decisions. Kind of like the car you drive. Chances are you could be driving a lesser expensive car. Or the watch you wear or the TV you watch and so on.....

So, what I’d like to suggest is (assuming you have the funds) just do it. That’s why we work… to be able to reward ourselves every now and then. It’s a lot like women and jewelry…..

yeoness wrote in post #3846929
tobers yes having the best really appeals my freind. all that powerrrrrrr

Stop already! I'm currently thinking about increasing my mortgage and getting the 1Ds3, a couple of L's and I need a new car as well, plus a ski holiday and maybe prepay a few years school fees for the sprogs. Once you lump all that big stuff in there, I could "lose" the camera & lenses in the detail and she'd never know

Plenty of positive equity in the house though

A quick point on the number of megapixels on a sensor. The new "foveon" sensors which have RGB sensors stacked on top of each other on a single pixel rather than 4 separate pixels covering RGB (2 red, 1 green and 1 blue from memory) must give the potential to have 3x the number of "real" pixels on a sensor if they are stacked on top of each other.

The foveon sensor looks really cool as each pixel registers all wavelengths of light. I think the current Sigma foveon camera that is out there is a bit limited as its sort of 1st gen, but can you imagine a 22mp foveon sensor (sort of 66mp in non-foveon technology) in a 1Ds mk4!! That would be rather monstrous and worthy of another mortgage to buy enough storage space for all the files.