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Sep 03, 2007 12:12 |  #31

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A quick point on the number of megapixels on a sensor. The new "foveon" sensors which have RGB sensors stacked on top of each other on a single pixel rather than 4 separate pixels covering RGB (2 red, 1 green and 1 blue from memory) must give the potential to have 3x the number of "real" pixels on a sensor if they are stacked on top of each other.

The foveon sensor looks really cool as each pixel registers all wavelengths of light. I think the current Sigma foveon camera that is out there is a bit limited as its sort of 1st gen, but can you imagine a 22mp foveon sensor (sort of 66mp in non-foveon technology) in a 1Ds mk4!! That would be rather monstrous and worthy of another mortgage to buy enough storage space for all the files.

Yeh, but you'd have to use Sigma lenses :| :p


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Sep 03, 2007 13:48 as a reply to  @ Neilyb's post |  #32

so what about computer power to process these images on the 1Ds 111


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Sep 03, 2007 13:50 |  #33

yeoness wrote in post #3852712 (external link)
so what about computer power to process these images on the 1Ds 111

Any computer would cope, unless of course your using a computer that is REALLY old.




  
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Sep 03, 2007 15:44 as a reply to  @ Nick_C's post |  #34

thanks Nick:D


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Sep 03, 2007 16:36 |  #35

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:Dgood advice guys and gals thanks:p

Get a 5D and a 35 1.4 and an 85 1.2 and still have some $$$ for taken the little lady out to dinner.




  
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Sep 03, 2007 16:50 |  #36

Just a note on cropping... I have the Hasselblad with a Phase One back 39mp... i fyou want to crop - make sure your focus is spot on... if not they will be soft... was just in Kenya with a 5d, the Hassi and a friend who had the Mark II... his pictures are just way sharper (although nothing comes quite close to the Hassi for landscapes).

Don't shoot to crop...


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Sep 03, 2007 21:04 |  #37

jothefish wrote in post #3853804 (external link)
Just a note on cropping... I have the Hasselblad with a Phase One back 39mp... i fyou want to crop - make sure your focus is spot on... if not they will be soft... was just in Kenya with a 5d, the Hassi and a friend who had the Mark II... his pictures are just way sharper (although nothing comes quite close to the Hassi for landscapes).

Don't shoot to crop...

Good point. The 1D's have their best auto focusing system which is supremely important for shooting wildlife on the move. I figure the 1Ds mk III should allow you to get the point of focus at least as often as my 1D mark II.

Having just gotten back from Alaska, I wish I had had the extra resolution of the new 1Ds--especially with the Bears and winged creatures.


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Sep 03, 2007 21:07 |  #38

Nick_C wrote in post #3852723 (external link)
Any computer would cope, unless of course your using a computer that is REALLY old.

Dell XPs m1710 here with 2gb of ram and a couple external drives, I have a 1Ds M.kII and it aint fast enough for me.

Seriously considering a 64bit 4 processor 8gb o' ram unit. Speed doesn't kill.


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Sep 04, 2007 02:12 |  #39

yeoness wrote in post #3845942 (external link)
Been reading some of the other threads on this but im tempted by the 1DS 111. Its a huge block of dough to spend when im not a professional.
I love wildlife and currently own the 20D which has been a truely superb camera. I want to upgrade and must confess my camera is bolted to my side wherever i go SO can someone guide me please?:confused:

If you are going to use the camera mostly outdoors(wildlife) going to a 1D series body will be a sound and practical move. If you go to a FF body you will have to most likely spend some money on longer lenses as you are going to lose a lot of reach going from x1.6 to FF. If you have good glass you can use a 1.4TC to good effect to counter the loss. It really does not bother me as I just slap on the big old 500 for the smaller stuff and for that extra bit if needed I add a TC.
I find the 1Ds II perfect for the job(wildlife photography/studio) and do not consider "upgrading" for at least another few years.
The 1Ds III is a expensive camera but if you have the money why not.
FF only likes very good glass so depending on what you already have you might have to upgrade your lenses as well.


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Sep 04, 2007 05:01 as a reply to  @ Goshawk's post |  #40

well i gotta 100-400 and a 1.4 tc 16-35L 24-70L so that surely wil be a good partnership??


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Sep 04, 2007 05:18 |  #41

As someone fortunate enough to have owned the 1dsMKII, having sold it for the Mark III, I can say unequivocally that I miss the FF and the extra pixels.

It'll be a cold day in hell when my hands aren't wrapped around that new baby.
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Sep 04, 2007 05:52 as a reply to  @ MDJAK's post |  #42

yeoness wrote in post #3846088 (external link)
well you talk alot of sense crazyskillz. What do you think the 5D upgrade will consist of?
I have been pleased with the 20D but would like some more features.

See here;):D

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Not only that, but is there any lens in the world that can resolve the difference between 300MP and 500MP without being the size of a silo?

Hubble?
Oh that IS the size of a silo - soory!:o

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I'm the same with the 85L II. I don't need one, can't justify the cost, and my photography skills just aren't up to it. But I WANT one:lol: I dream about getting one for my birthday etc....

well I was in the same boat - got one and yes it is amazing, but just sold it cos I just didn't use it enough:cry:


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Do you have the money? I know it's big bucks.... can you afford the expenditure? If so, then go straight to the camera store and plop down your deposit and get in line.

So, what I’d like to suggest is (assuming you have the funds) just do it. That’s why we work… to be able to reward ourselves every now and then. It’s a lot like women and jewelry…..

well put;)

yeoness wrote in post #3852712 (external link)
so what about computer power to process these images on the 1Ds 111

file size is important - yes you migt have to upgrade your comp if it's prehistoric but otherwise it should be OK

A more important piont is do you need that kinda file size? You might if you are coming from an XTi (etc) and want to submit to agencies who require 50mb files. It would put you well and truly in the right bracket to sell pics to quality image libraries. But is that important to you?

jothefish wrote in post #3853804 (external link)
Just a note on cropping... I have the Hasselblad with a Phase One back 39mp... i fyou want to crop - make sure your focus is spot on... if not they will be soft... was just in Kenya with a 5d, the Hassi and a friend who had the Mark II... his pictures are just way sharper (although nothing comes quite close to the Hassi for landscapes).

Don't shoot to crop...

Darn right!

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assuming you can afford it (otherise you wouldn't have posted the question) the question is - would you use it?

Seriously. I just had the 85Lmk2 and despite loving it to bits just didn't use it enough and so sold it.:cry:

Are you actually going to lug that great hunk of camera round and actually going to take as many pics with it?

If the answers is yes then get it, if the answer is no, then don't :cool:


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Sep 04, 2007 07:02 |  #43

something that makes me think is the fps comparison on the 1DS111 and the 1D111 any thoughts on this one?:confused:


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Sep 04, 2007 07:32 |  #44

what i mean is is the 1Ds that much more superior because of this factor?


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Sep 04, 2007 07:32 as a reply to  @ Neilyb's post |  #45

Love this thread. I am killing myslef with exactly the same question. I have a 20D and my wife has a 5D. But I WANT the 1ds Mk3. Now I have that out of the way I have to work out why I NEED the mk3 and what I would use it for.....not such an easy task IMO.

I am an all rounder when it comes to photos, but my passion is motorports. I know you might think the 1dm3 is the way to go, but I can't see myself needing 10fps, 5fps is fast enough for me. Also, all the pro formula one shooters use the 1dsmk2 so it must be good enough!!

I have reached the limits of the 20D in IQ and capabilities and am constantly striving for more - I find the camera is holding me back. I don't think the mk3 will help with core skills such as composition etc, but I do see it giving a more satisfactory image. The 5D (when I can get it) is much better than the 20D, but its AF is unpleaseant - bareable but hard work at motorsports events. Weather proofing would be so useful for most of my favourite shooting climates - oh the rain!!

So I can see that I would "use" the mk3, maybe not to its utmost capabilities, but certainly enough - but what about the hard questions.

The good news:

  • I can afford it, no problem
  • I shoot for stock libraries so do make a little money from photogrpahy (not enough to warrant a pro label, but I can see this camera really opening my opportunities).
  • all my lenses are L series, so no issues there
The bad news:
  • I am an amateur - do I really need pro gear?
  • It is a lot of money!!
  • No really, it is a lot of money!!!!
After all that to-ing and fro-ing, I came to one conclusion.....

Try it before I buy it.....there is no substitute for seeing if it really makes a difference to my photos - maybe the 20d limitation is me, not the camera - tyring the mk3 will certainly answer that question.

Roll on November - and good luck to all in making thier own decision :-)

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