Will anyone use picture styles on the 40D?

What about 'Standard'?

Rgds
Pat

Raw only. Never JPEG.

Even if you shoot RAW, you have to have a default picture Style. I just use standard

Software other than DPP doesn't interpret the values of "standard", "portrait", "faithful", "neutral", "landscape", etc. so using RAW, it doesn't matter what the camera settings are.

And because I use a "white disc" for white balance, I don't even bother to change the temp settings - it's been on AWB for months.

For raw shooters, which includes me, be aware that the choice of picture style affects the embedded jpeg from which the histogram is generated. If you use Standard, for example, you will see highlight clipping indicated where in fact there may be none in the raw image. This may lead you to back off on the exposure and shoot a bit less to the right than you would like. If you use Neutral picture style then the histogram will more accurately reflect what you truly captured in the raw file. Thus I use Neutral picture style so that I get a better indication of what the sensor saw, rather than the overcooked jpeg that results from pumping up saturation, sharpening and contrast.

*If* I were to shoot jpeg then I would use Standard picture style in the hope that I would not need to pass the file through a further edit session and thus diminish quality further. I don't like the colours generated by Portrait or Faithful (who has lighting at exactly 5200K for Faithful in any case?) and I can't imagine why anyone would want to commit a photo to monochrome in camera rather than tinker with it afterwards. As for Landscape, if it suits your need so be it but I'd generally aim for colour and tonal accuracy rather than boost certain colours.

I just shoot RAW so I never going to be bothered by the settings. it can be done with the software once I am sitting on my machine.

Great thoughtful post tdodd, much better than a single line meaningless response!


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damn!

tdodd wrote in post #3856978
For raw shooters, which includes me, be aware that the choice of picture style affects the embedded jpeg from which the histogram is generated. If you use Standard, for example, you will see highlight clipping indicated where in fact there may be none in the raw image. This may lead you to back off on the exposure and shoot a bit less to the right than you would like. If you use Neutral picture style then the histogram will more accurately reflect what you truly captured in the raw file. Thus I use Neutral picture style so that I get a better indication of what the sensor saw, rather than the overcooked jpeg that results from pumping up saturation, sharpening and contrast.

Thanks tdodd, this explains something that had been bothering me for sometime.

RAW, always RAW. BUT now when I get my 40D I will shoot sRAW.

Just to follow up on tdodd's post, I actually shoot raw with a custom picture style, which is basically the neutral setting but with the contrast set all the way to minus 4. Unless I am mistaken, that should give you the most accurate highlight clipping warnings on the embedded jpeg, so that you will eliminate as much as possible the problem that can arise when the embedded jpeg shows clipped highlights that are actually perfectly acceptable on the raw file.

c71clark wrote in post #3855908
Does ANYONE who considers themselves a hobbiest or more ever use them? I never have, and I can't see why I ever would. I have read an article or two that sorta praise their function. It does seem weird that Canon would even put something that seems to be for amateurs on a very expensive piece of equipment used almost exclusively by those who *know* how to take pictures.

Wow. It's amazing you can find a shirt with a hole big enough to fit your head through...

Picture styles are just one more tool that can be used. If you choose not to...well, then goody for you. If someone finds that they get acceptable results from this in-camera post-processing without having to resort to additional steps in the computer...well, then goody for them. You can create custom picture styles as well (but, since you know everything, you probably already knew that too:rolleyes.

Turn it down a notch, and get back to being the professional that you must certainly be...

Not get it yet!

tdodd wrote in post #3856978
For raw shooters, which includes me, be aware that the choice of picture style affects the embedded jpeg from which the histogram is generated. If you use Standard, for example, you will see highlight clipping indicated where in fact there may be none in the raw image. This may lead you to back off on the exposure and shoot a bit less to the right than you would like. If you use Neutral picture style then the histogram will more accurately reflect what you truly captured in the raw file. Thus I use Neutral picture style so that I get a better indication of what the sensor saw, rather than the overcooked jpeg that results from pumping up saturation, sharpening and contrast.

*If* I were to shoot jpeg then I would use Standard picture style in the hope that I would not need to pass the file through a further edit session and thus diminish quality further. I don't like the colours generated by Portrait or Faithful (who has lighting at exactly 5200K for Faithful in any case?) and I can't imagine why anyone would want to commit a photo to monochrome in camera rather than tinker with it afterwards. As for Landscape, if it suits your need so be it but I'd generally aim for colour and tonal accuracy rather than boost certain colours.

Hence, the reason I always shoot RAW+Nuetral.

Thanks for the breakdown and most excellent explanation most of us were to lazy to post.

tdodd wrote in post #3856978
For raw shooters, which includes me, be aware that the choice of picture style affects the embedded jpeg from which the histogram is generated. If you use Standard, for example, you will see highlight clipping indicated where in fact there may be none in the raw image. This may lead you to back off on the exposure and shoot a bit less to the right than you would like. If you use Neutral picture style then the histogram will more accurately reflect what you truly captured in the raw file. Thus I use Neutral picture style so that I get a better indication of what the sensor saw, rather than the overcooked jpeg that results from pumping up saturation, sharpening and contrast.

Great explanation! I think it is important to remember that what Raw shooters like myself see on the display is not what the Raw image will look like.

I like Neutral too.

RAW here as well.
Of the times I shot jpeg, I left it at neutral.