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Sep 05, 2007 19:10 |  #1

I just got my 40D from best buy here intown my question is after I download the raw file to my pc (xp) I cannot get it to open either with photoshop cs3 extended or Adobe lightoom 1.1 it says that the file is not compatible. it will read it in jpeg but not in raw. anyone experience this problem ? I need help.


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Sep 05, 2007 19:13 |  #2

yes we all do, adobe raw does not read it and we are all awaiting an update, could be a while too :( was hoping it be same as Mk 3s but it is not

the software with the camera DPP reads the raw files you need to install it


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Sep 05, 2007 19:24 as a reply to  @ MaDProFF's post |  #3

Is this the case with both RAW and the new SRAW format?


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Sep 05, 2007 19:40 |  #4

not tried sRAW so not sure, but I would guess DPP reads them and very much doubt Adobe will


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Sep 05, 2007 19:56 |  #5

Now I'm going to be really pissed if they don't get this updated like real soon I just purcahsed the full version of CS3 and it's going to be ashame that I can't use it.


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Sep 05, 2007 19:56 as a reply to  @ MaDProFF's post |  #6

Thanks for the response!


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Sep 05, 2007 20:21 |  #7

Might as well add to this thread that Aperture and iPhoto will likely require updates for handling the 40D's RAW files.


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Sep 05, 2007 20:23 |  #8

So what will RAW shooters do with their CRW or CR2 pics in twenty years when nobody supports ancient file formats?

Something to think about, seems to me.

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Sep 05, 2007 20:41 |  #9

number six wrote in post #3869501 (external link)
So what will RAW shooters do with their CRW or CR2 pics in twenty years when nobody supports ancient file formats?

Something to think about, seems to me.

-js

Use dcraw?

Issues like the one you mention are part of why I'm such a big fan of free (open source) software.


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Sep 05, 2007 20:41 |  #10

The internet is like a black hole for information, so as long as the internet is still around in 20 years I'm sure someone will have a way to read them.

Plus I never throw anything away (still have my first Pentium 166 computer with 32MB of ram and 10Gig hard drive), so you'll be able to send me the files, or buy one of my old computers with old drivers and software on it :)


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Sep 05, 2007 20:49 as a reply to  @ JoshBowers's post |  #11

you can try the link below..there is a new camera raw that supports the MarkIII, so perhaps it will work with the 40D. I dont' have one yet so i am unable to try it. Please post if it does. The install is quite simple and the instruction are on the page

http://www.adobe.com …/photoshop/came​raraw.html (external link)

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Sep 05, 2007 21:40 |  #12

thegary wrote in post #3869655 (external link)
you can try the link below..there is a new camera raw that supports the MarkIII, so perhaps it will work with the 40D.

I could be reading this wrong, but the OP tried with LR 1.1 and CS3 extended without success and the links on those pages are to upgrade LR or CS3 to those versions.

Is there a plug-in link on the page that I am missing?


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Sep 05, 2007 21:43 |  #13

number six wrote in post #3869501 (external link)
So what will RAW shooters do with their CRW or CR2 pics in twenty years when nobody supports ancient file formats?

Something to think about, seems to me.

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Do you really think JPEG is going to be around in twenty years? Now there is something to think about.. ; )


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Sep 05, 2007 22:05 as a reply to  @ xiskool's post |  #14

I'm waiting until the adobe dng converter to be updated so I can use my current raw program. Hopefully they won't be too slow at updating ;)


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Sep 05, 2007 22:16 |  #15

number six wrote in post #3869501 (external link)
So what will RAW shooters do with their CRW or CR2 pics in twenty years when nobody supports ancient file formats?

Something to think about, seems to me.

-js

Hopefully TIFF, or at least PNG-24, will survive. Either that, or conversion software will be periodically available. I tend to archive the SDKs, so if push comes to shove, I'll write it myself.

More to the point, however, Adobe's decision to include RAW support for the 1D Mark III and not sRAW is curious (well, in my mind, it's rather shameful of Adobe). But it's probably because the EOS SDK (EDSDK 2.0.1) doesn't support the 40D or 1Ds Mark III yet.

http://www.usa.canon.c​om …odelid=7474&id=​3464#SDKQ1 (external link)

In my memory, there was an SDK update shortly after the 1D3 was released (March-ish), and about three months after that, ARC 4.1 was released with 1D3 support (May-ish). From that, I think we can expect ARC 4.2 to support the 40D no sooner than two to three months after the the next SDK is released. Adobe might be waiting for both the Canon and Nikon SDKs since it's becoming trench warfare over DSLRs and there's a lot of churn in the market they're trying to support. Because 4 new camera have been announced in the last month, they're probably waiting on the updates so that they can release one version vice a long string of incremental additiona. It sucks for us, but it's better configuration control in the long run.

Fortunately the timing of my 1D3 purchase and the release of ACR 4.1 saved me from this problem. However, the best thing (I can think of) in the mean time is do the initial exposure/color/contrac​t in DPP, then save it as a TIFF for post in Photoshop.

xiskool wrote in post #3870076 (external link)
Do you really think JPEG is going to be around in twenty years? Now there is something to think about.. ; )

When I heard that question 15 years ago, I was hoping the answer would be "no." Hell, I'm still waiting for GIF to die...(if only PNG had animations...).


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