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JRP2661
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Sep 07, 2007 17:18 |  #1

I currently have a 17-85 IS and 70-300 IS, and I am thinking of upgrading to an L-combo.
I would like hear your opinion on the following combinations:

1: 24-70 2.8L and 70-200 4.0L IS (cannot afford the 2.8 IS)
2: 24-105 4.0L IS and 100-400 L IS

I use crop body, but I have a Sigma 10-20, so I am covered at the wide end.
With the first alternative, the obvious benefit will be faster lenses. With the second one, while I get slower lenses, I get 200mm extra reach. And I would love to have IS.

Welcome any advice you can give me. Thanks




  
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Sep 07, 2007 17:23 |  #2

seems that you have answered your own question. what kind of shooting do you do? are you willing to trade the extra 200mm for low light close-up? :)

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Sep 07, 2007 17:31 as a reply to  @ rent's post |  #3

thanks Rent,

I like to shoot a little bit of everything, so I know whichever combo I decide, I will in some point in time regret not having chosen the other combo.

I would however like to get opinion in regards to IQ and performance, and other members' experience with any of those lenses.




  
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Sep 07, 2007 17:32 as a reply to  @ JRP2661's post |  #4

should have said Thanks, Alex. Missed the last word of you post, sorry!




  
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Sep 07, 2007 17:37 |  #5

Why not option 1, plus an extender, the 1.4X?

That gives you the same reach more or less as before, with better quality lenses, and the 1.4X on the 70-200 is barely a small notch down in IQ. It still is amazing.

If you are really worried about missing out on IS, I would maybe substitute the 24-70 with the 24-105. It still is two grades up from the 17-85.

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Sep 07, 2007 17:43 as a reply to  @ wimg's post |  #6

I have a 24-105 and the 70-200 F4 (non IS) and the 100-400
I believe that the 70-200 F4 IS is the same size as mine
also have the 1.4 TC
also have the 10-22 for wide

the 70-200 and the 100-400 are really two different animals for two different purposes
if you are simply wanting the additional 100-300 range you wouldn't want to carry around the 100-400 lens it can get heavy after a while

I mainly use the longer telephoto lens for wildlife
and my shorter telephoto for the other purposes (street shooting, scenics, portraits etc)

both are great lenses..


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Sep 07, 2007 17:52 as a reply to  @ wimg's post |  #7

I have the second combo (24-105 /100-400) and love it, both lenses are sharp and produce great images. To be honest, I doubt you will have any regrets with either combo as regards IQ etc., both will do a great job.

It really does depend on what you want to shoot and whether reach / aperture are more important to you. I find that the 100-400 can be a bit slow at f5.6 and I sometimes find myself bumping the ISO to 1600+ to get the shutter speeds I want.

However, I do quite a lot of shooting birds / animals and, in woodland for example, light can be quite dim. I am looking at some fast primes to deal with this problem.

Don't get me wrong, in most situations I find the 100-400 an excellent lens and it is probably used for more shots than all my other lenses put together. On many shoots I find my default lenses tend to be your combo 2 and I walk around with both of these mounted most of the time (I have two bodies).

Hope this helps.




  
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Sep 07, 2007 18:07 |  #8

gabrioladude wrote in post #3883874 (external link)
if you are simply wanting the additional 100-300 range you wouldn't want to carry around the 100-400 lens it can get heavy after a while

That is a personal thing though. Yes, some people find it heavy to carry but many have absolutely no problem with the weight.

I've had the 100-400 round my neck all day today (on a 5D) plus the 24-105 on a 20D without any issues.

Tomorrow I am shooting an airshow and the day after it's drag racing. At the former, the 100-400 will be to my eye for five hours and at the latter I will be using it all day, about 9 hours or so. Handheld in both cases (IS is wonderful).

I realise that you may be unhappy with the weight of that lens, but I feel that you may be giving a false impression by telling the OP that he wouldn't want to carry it around because of it. You may be right of course, I can't speak for the OP, but the best thing is to say that it may be a little heavy for some people.




  
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Sep 07, 2007 20:28 as a reply to  @ sandpiper's post |  #9

thanks everybody!

personally, I am leaning towards 24-70 and 70-200 combo, although I am open to all possibilities.
after all, I am still currently stuck with my non-L combo.:(
and who knows, if I am lucky, I maybe able to afford 70-200 2.8L IS :)




  
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Sep 07, 2007 20:43 |  #10

How about option 1.5: 24-105 and 70-200 w/1.4x telecon.
That is the lens combo I have, plus a Tokina 12-24.
I find a really haven't missed a f2.8 lens.


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Sep 07, 2007 21:04 |  #11

why not go 24-70 and 100-400 and only have a 30mm gap?


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Sep 07, 2007 21:13 |  #12

What I did was:

24-70mm f/2.8
70-200mm f/2.8 IS
200-500mm Tamron.

Sure IQ isn't up to par with the 100-400 but when I need reach, I need reach and IQ isn't as important as 99% of my shots are made with the first two lenses. Another option would be a Sigma 50-500mm A.K.A. "Bigma"


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Sep 07, 2007 22:58 |  #13

MetalRain wrote in post #3885035 (external link)
why not go 24-70 and 100-400 and only have a 30mm gap?

24-70 and 100-400 is route I went and I have no regrets. Good luck in whatever you choose!

PS. What about renting all of the lenses and try them out?


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Sep 07, 2007 23:25 as a reply to  @ ronmuller's post |  #14

I have the 24-105, 70-200 f4 IS and the 100-400L.

Personally the 100-400L is used for zoos and such and it's a great wildlife lens. If you are not doing this type of shooting often then I would say stick with the 70-200 f4IS and get yourself a 1.4x TC.

You've got a crop body so it's not going to be too bad...I use my 100-400L on my 5D and usually it's long enough so...




  
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Sep 07, 2007 23:30 |  #15

If you scan your EXIF on current shots, what focal lengths are you NOT using?

You may be surprised by the results. I was.


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