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Why I still like the 5D over the 40D...(Non-IQ related)

 
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Sep 11, 2007 09:10 |  #76

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Yep, thats why I thought long and hard about what I am actually photographing, I have actually managed to do 90% of images with just the 24-105L, the other 10% are telephoto.

I make the most of what I have as I dont believe the comments made that we all buy DSLR's because we like changing lenses, we buy DSLR's because we can have a greater choice of lenses, but if I can do the same with 1 lens I will, changing lenses outdoors in less than ideal conditions is not something I find that much fun :p

definitely - I am in the slow and painful process of trimming don my colection to what i really use rather than what I try to use to justify keepig the lens (just sold my 85L)


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Sep 12, 2007 12:29 |  #77

Nick_C wrote in post #3906607 (external link)
Yep, thats why I thought long and hard about what I am actually photographing, I have actually managed to do 90% of images with just the 24-105L, the other 10% are telephoto.

I make the most of what I have as I dont believe the comments made that we all buy DSLR's because we like changing lenses, we buy DSLR's because we can have a greater choice of lenses, but if I can do the same with 1 lens I will, changing lenses outdoors in less than ideal conditions is not something I find that much fun :p


Think this is going to be a big thing for me when upgrading for travel. I will be shooting landscapes and people- a 24-105 as a walk around would be fantastic for everyday use. Couple that with my 70-200, a 17-40 and 1 or 2 low light primes and I think with the 5D will be fine. Just wish it was weathersealed then my choice would be made! Will probably get a 1dmk2 until then to give me the versatility I need at uni (still life, maybe sports, gigs... i.e. everything).


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Sep 12, 2007 12:36 |  #78

While I only read through the first 20 or so posts here, I must say I'm quite surprised. In the past there was a post asking people if they could have it, would they want the 1DsMKII. I believe more than half said no. Why? Ehh, full frame was no big deal to them. They liked the crop factor. Gave them more length (and lord knows most of you guys could use that) with their zooms, etc.

Use a camera like the 40D which has the sensor clean; see no dust on your sensor for months at a time; tell me how you like that little feature.

Yeah, you 5D adherents have a strong case. I miss the heck out of my full frame, but still love my Mark III. In fact, if Canon doesn't straighten this AF mess out and if the 1DsMKIII suffers from the same wacky focus problems, I'm going to Camp Nikon.
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Sep 12, 2007 12:55 as a reply to  @ MDJAK's post |  #79

Significantly superior ISO performance is why I am still opting for the 5D... I got to use a 40D and the ISO performance is NO better than the 30D...


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Sep 12, 2007 13:51 |  #80

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Significantly superior ISO performance is why I am still opting for the 5D... I got use a 40D and the ISO performance is NO better than the 30D...

Thats also what Canon say, they managed to increase to 10mp with no increase in noise over the 30D.




  
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Sep 12, 2007 15:47 |  #81

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#1 remove lens :p

#2 use rocket blower several times over the entire area

#3 flip the mirror up & then use rocket blower over sensor area

#4 using a VERY soft & small brush, carefully blow & VERY VERY lightly brush over the sensor with just the very tip of the bristles, nothing heavy at all, so you just lightly dislodge any dust with the rocket blower blowing it away, might been 2 people for this, so one can brush, the other can provide a constant blowing, an air compressor would give a constant flow but could introduce grease if its not a filtered one.

#5 put it all back & check for dust.

Thats what I would do, but I might be wrong ;)

Thats pretty much what I did - using an Arctic Butterfly for step 4. With the 350D I'd use the rocket blower every time I changed lenses, and If I got any "Dust bunnies" showing up on my images. I'd wet clean every couple of months - usually using 2 or 3 swabs to get the sensor looking sparkling.
Same with the 5D, except that last time there was a piece of dust that wouldn't shift after a couple of swabs, so I unwrapped another one and tried again ( very gently of course ). I then noticed a funny looking "stain" in the centre of the sensor, and immediately feared the worst. I tried another swab, but the "stain" just got larger, and the damage was done . . .


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Sep 12, 2007 16:56 |  #82

stevieboy378 wrote in post #3916406 (external link)
Thats pretty much what I did - using an Arctic Butterfly for step 4. With the 350D I'd use the rocket blower every time I changed lenses, and If I got any "Dust bunnies" showing up on my images. I'd wet clean every couple of months - usually using 2 or 3 swabs to get the sensor looking sparkling.
Same with the 5D, except that last time there was a piece of dust that wouldn't shift after a couple of swabs, so I unwrapped another one and tried again ( very gently of course ). I then noticed a funny looking "stain" in the centre of the sensor, and immediately feared the worst. I tried another swab, but the "stain" just got larger, and the damage was done . . .

Scary stuff, certainly not something you want to happen to a 5D, that fluid must be completely wrong for these cameras, have your contacted the makers at all? I definately would.




  
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Sep 12, 2007 17:20 |  #83

stevieboy378 wrote in post #3916406 (external link)
Thats pretty much what I did - using an Arctic Butterfly for step 4. With the 350D I'd use the rocket blower every time I changed lenses, and If I got any "Dust bunnies" showing up on my images. I'd wet clean every couple of months - usually using 2 or 3 swabs to get the sensor looking sparkling.
Same with the 5D, except that last time there was a piece of dust that wouldn't shift after a couple of swabs, so I unwrapped another one and tried again ( very gently of course ). I then noticed a funny looking "stain" in the centre of the sensor, and immediately feared the worst. I tried another swab, but the "stain" just got larger, and the damage was done . . .

which materials exactly were you using please?


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Sep 12, 2007 17:25 |  #84

Nick_C wrote in post #3916854 (external link)
Scary stuff, certainly not something you want to happen to a 5D, that fluid must be completely wrong for these cameras, have your contacted the makers at all? I definately would.

Not yet - I'm waiting til I get the camera, and the ruined sensor cover, back. Then I'll make my move.

Thing is - I've always been nervous about wet cleaning, and consequently have always taken extreme care not to use too much fluid or apply too much pressure. I even go as far as only using a swab to perform one cleaning stroke, after which I discard it rather than using the reverse side of it.
When the oxide layer began to lift it did so at an alarming rate - one moment the "stain" was the size of a pinhead, the next ( one swab wipe later ) it covered approximately half of the total area of the sensor. Looking through a magnifying glass I couldn't tell if the fluid had gotten between the tin oxide coating and the sensor glass, or if the oxide had actually been dissolved . . .


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Sep 12, 2007 17:27 |  #85

I Simonius wrote in post #3916957 (external link)
which materials exactly were you using please?

Rocket blower and Arctic Butterfly for dry cleaning.
Original formula Photosol fluid & sensor wipes for wet Cleaning.


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Sep 12, 2007 17:32 |  #86

stevieboy378 wrote in post #3916992 (external link)
Rocket blower and Arctic Butterfly for dry cleaning.
Original formula Photosol fluid & sensor wipes for wet Cleaning.

Is the origianl formula the same as Eclipse?


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Sep 12, 2007 17:33 |  #87

stevieboy378 wrote in post #3916982 (external link)
Not yet - I'm waiting til I get the camera, and the ruined sensor cover, back. Then I'll make my move.

Thing is - I've always been nervous about wet cleaning, and consequently have always taken extreme care not to use too much fluid or apply too much pressure. I even go as far as only using a swab to perform one cleaning stroke, after which I discard it rather than using the reverse side of it.
When the oxide layer began to lift it did so at an alarming rate - one moment the "stain" was the size of a pinhead, the next ( one swab wipe later ) it covered approximately half of the total area of the sensor. Looking through a magnifying glass I couldn't tell if the fluid had gotten between the tin oxide coating and the sensor glass, or if the oxide had actually been dissolved . . .

Yep it sounds like you have been as careful as possible, good idea, get the damaged cover back & then complain.




  
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Sep 12, 2007 17:40 |  #88

I Simonius wrote in post #3917011 (external link)
Is the origianl formula the same as Eclipse?

Sorry - my mistake . . . Yes, I used Photosol Eclipse, Original formula . . .


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Sep 12, 2007 17:42 |  #89

Is it any of these ones?

http://www.warehouseex​press.com/?/photo/clea​ning/crownb.html (external link)




  
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Sep 12, 2007 18:17 |  #90

Yup - original Eclipse fluid & 4207KC swabs . . .


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