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Sep 10, 2007 18:57 |  #1

On the shooting mode dial on top of the 40D (or other canon EOS cameras)...is it possible to set one of the user defined modes to an exposure value such as 1/100 @ f16 @ISO 100 (sunny day f16 rule) and then use one of the camera's setting wheels to shift the values within the same exposure IE: 1/200 @ f11, 1/400 @ f8, 1/800 @ f5.6 etc.

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Sep 11, 2007 09:42 |  #2

So I'll assume that's a "No" ?


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Sep 11, 2007 09:51 |  #3

I'm curious myself. Themanual doesn't explain this very well. I assume that it just sets you ISO and shhoting priority (AV, TV, etc.). If someone can clarify this we would all benefit.
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Sep 11, 2007 11:10 |  #4

When you're in any of the user defined modes, all the other controls work as they normally would for the shooting mode. You can change ISO, aperature, shutter, comp, etc. If you switch out of the user mode and back in, everything will reset back to what you had originally saved for that user mode. The user mode saves all exposure settings, focus mode, WB, and custom functions. To me, this ability is one of the most useful features of the camera. I've got a mode set up for Live View, another for indoor lousy light action sports.


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Sep 11, 2007 11:22 |  #5

bsmotril wrote in post #3907565 (external link)
When you're in any of the user defined modes, all the other controls work as they normally would for the shooting mode. You can change ISO, aperature, shutter, comp, etc. If you switch out of the user mode and back in, everything will reset back to what you had originally saved for that user mode. The user mode saves all exposure settings, focus mode, WB, and custom functions. To me, this ability is one of the most useful features of the camera. I've got a mode set up for Live View, another for indoor lousy light action sports.

So your saying that if I set up the user defined mode at the above example, Manual Exposure 1/100 @ f16, ISO 100 AWB etc., than I CAN? use the camera controls to rock the settings within the user defined mode to 1/200 @ f11, 1/400 @ f8 etc. or in that example would only be able to shoot at my preset 1/100 @ f16 when returning to that user defined mode.
In other words, will I be able to change the settings within the same exposure value with the turn of only ONE wheel, or would the user defined simply put me in manual exposure mode and still require me to change both shutter and aperture and think out the exposure myself so to speak.
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Sep 11, 2007 11:26 as a reply to  @ bsmotril's post |  #6

I'm wondering if its possible to set one up for quick change to fast moving items? I have, more then once, had a helicopter / bird / etc show up while I am shotting something else and I can not change the cameras setting fast enough. I'm thinking mid to high ISO, lowest possible aperture, center focus point, AI servo, and high speed drive.

I will have to play with this when I get a chance but I wish the manual had more info in this area.


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Sep 11, 2007 11:50 |  #7

roqdawg wrote in post #3907641 (external link)
So your saying that if I set up the user defined mode at the above example, Manual Exposure 1/100 @ f16, ISO 100 AWB etc., than I CAN? use the camera controls to rock the settings within the user defined mode to 1/200 @ f11, 1/400 @ f8 etc. or in that example would only be able to shoot at my preset 1/100 @ f16 when returning to that user defined mode.
In other words, will I be able to change the settings within the same exposure value with the turn of only ONE wheel, or would the user defined simply put me in manual exposure mode and still require me to change both shutter and aperture and think out the exposure myself so to speak.
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Yes, you can. The User Defined custom made will stay in whatever mode you registered the setting for. So if you set it as Av with certain settings, the custom function mode will operate as Av mode would.

One thing to be careful of, if you turn to a Custom Mode and then later manually change something, say ISO, aperture, whatever, if the camera then automatically turns off because you haven't pushed a button for more than 1 minute or however long you have the auto power-off set for, when you later push a button and the camera fires up again it will have reverted back to the original settings for the custom setting and will have forgotten any changes you have made.

If anyone knows a workaround to this, other than just disabling the auto power-off, I would be glad to hear it.


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Sep 11, 2007 11:50 |  #8

Its a great option and saves a lot of time. I set one one up for HDR eg. Auto bracketing +- 2 stops Av f8, 100 ISO 6.5 frames per second, you can still adjust these settings and swith to other settings on the dial. Save a lot of menu setting.
Setting for Liveview seems a very good idea.


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Sep 11, 2007 11:51 |  #9

New Hobby wrote in post #3907653 (external link)
I'm wondering if its possible to set one up for quick change to fast moving items? I have, more then once, had a helicopter / bird / etc show up while I am shotting something else and I can not change the cameras setting fast enough. I'm thinking mid to high ISO, lowest possible aperture, center focus point, AI servo, and high speed drive.

I will have to play with this when I get a chance but I wish the manual had more info in this area.

You could defintely set a Custom Setting for this type of situation and then when you need to all you would have to do is turn the mode dial, say to C1, and then all of the settings would be changed.


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Sep 11, 2007 12:04 |  #10

McManus wrote in post #3907771 (external link)
Yes, you can. The User Defined custom made will stay in whatever mode you registered the setting for. So if you set it as Av with certain settings, the custom function mode will operate as Av mode would.

But there lies my question...If I set to the custom setting to manual exposure and dial in 1/100 @ f16, can the camera to retain the exposure setting, and I can simply adjust the shutter/aperture combination to my liking at the same exposure with the spin of a wheel, or does the camera simply return to manual exposure mode (perhaps only remembering the 1/100 @ f16 setting but not locking the exposure value) when I come back to the custom setting.


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Sep 11, 2007 12:38 |  #11

In your example, the Custom Function would remember the exposure setting of 1/100 @ f/16, but you would simply be in Manual mode, so to adjust it you would have to use both dials. If you set custom mode using Av, then you you could dial in a certain aperture, say f/11, but the shutter would then be set by the meter. You can also pre-program in exposure compensation.

Bottom line is it doesn't give you access to any features that you wouldn't have in any of the other modes. It just lets you store settings, including custom functions, focus points, basically any setting you could otherwise use, all in one mode.


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Sep 11, 2007 13:05 |  #12

McManus wrote in post #3908059 (external link)
In your example, the Custom Function would remember the exposure setting of 1/100 @ f/16, but you would simply be in Manual mode, so to adjust it you would have to use both dials. If you set custom mode using Av, then you you could dial in a certain aperture, say f/11, but the shutter would then be set by the meter. You can also pre-program in exposure compensation.

Bottom line is it doesn't give you access to any features that you wouldn't have in any of the other modes. It just lets you store settings, including custom functions, focus points, basically any setting you could otherwise use, all in one mode.

Thanks McManus. I can see the usefulness of the custom settings but was hoping I could somehow lock the exposure as well. I shot Kodachrome 64 for about 20 years with my A1 and had the "sunny day f16" values locked into my mind based on 1/60 @ f16, so I now have to stop and think when I shift it to ISO 100...thought maybe I could have a dedicated setting for it on the camera dial to use as an instant setting when shooting subjects that would defy the camera's meter.

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