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Sep 10, 2007 19:35 |  #1

hmm. Well today i got all crazy again and all that i could think about was getting something different and new. So i walked into a magazine store at uni. Read photography magazine. Then this turned even deeper and i went down queen street to Mag nation (main street in Auckland city). Terribly obsessed i looked at more photography magazines.

Walked into the huge camera store in Queen street and stared at all the lovely equipment that i dont have

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. Saw the 40D. Its massive! it is a beast irl compared to what you see on the internets. Infact the 30D is massive as well.

So the sales assistant came to me and i told him im thinking of giving up my Canon setup for the Nikon D40x. But i told him my concern that they all say its for entry level people. He said the 300D and 400D are entry level.hmm...

One thing i noticed about the D40x is that its so small. Honestly its the size of a compact digital. Whether or not that is good. I am not sure. I also questioned about the focusing points and how it only had 3 compared to others with 7+. He said he dosent like too many focusing points because it just gets darn confusing.

I thought about it. And gosh it is true. I went into parallel (imported cheap gear shop) and saw the nikon D40x again. Obsessively. I really want to hold it. I also looked at the Nikon lenses. The build quality is good and they dont class there lenses really. The prices are good as well...

Now i am seriously considering buying the D40x. But. Just. But. I am still confused. I shouldnt be even worried about this. But i am. FFS!!! what should i do. Go nikon D40x or keep my setup and wait till i have sufficient money to buy a better body. Photography forum members help a confused person out.

Why is it that i feel like something new. Why cant i be happy with the gear i have. What the hell. I started off this year very satisfied with what i brought. But somehow i have the urge to shift.

What have you people done in the past to prevent this? How have you become smarter and more logical in photography gear... Why is Nikon eating away at my Canon self :(

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Sep 10, 2007 19:41 |  #2

G'day,

Stay away from Parralell imported!
They are a dodgy, dodgy company, so bad that Canon NZ will not service cameras purchased from there.
Also stay away fom the Queen St camera shops, they are very expensive.

Instead catch a bus up to the top of Symonds st and Mt Eden Rd, then take a ride down Great North Road till you reach Auckland Camera :)
Then have a real talk with the real photographers in there (instead of the sales guys in queen st).

Of course first you should save up for either a 400D or a 40D, both will be leaps and bounds above your 300D in terms of performance, and the 400D is a similar size. 8)



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Sep 10, 2007 19:45 |  #3

But why do i have such a strong earge to buy a D40x. This will mean selling all my canon gear.

How the hell has this obsession happened. Do you guys obsess about the competition??
Save up for a 400D aye, but whats the big wow about that. oh no i feel the darkside coming.

And i look at the test shots of the D40x of people on Flickr and they look so sharp and nice. And thats with the kit lens! but if i go D40x than i cant post here anymore :(

I asked the sales man where the 20D is. He said its long gone :( .... Should i save for the 20D or 400D if i choose to stay with canon?


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Sep 10, 2007 19:49 |  #4

There are still plenty of second hand 20Ds around, and its still a great camera.
But it went out of production sometime ago when the 30D cam out, which has now been replaced with the 40D.
Getting a cheap second hand one, might not be such a bad idea for an upgrade.

If you happen to have a hankering for Nikon, then give it a go, just remember it will cost more than just upgrading your current body.
You will have to get all new glass as well as a learn a whole new system.
Nikon seem to have some complex lens system where some work with some bodies, and some don't.



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Sep 10, 2007 20:06 |  #5
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The XTi and d40/d40x are the same physical size. So if you think the d40x is small, the XTi is the same size.




  
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Sep 10, 2007 20:23 |  #6

The D40 and the XTi/400D though the same size are really different cameras. The XTi/400 shares a similar noise profile and high ISO performance that the two digit 20D/30D cameras do. IQ between the 400 and the 30 are almost identical. The D40 however is not the D300 at least on paper and does not have the ISO performance of Nikon's new cameras. It is still CCD based and suffers the same poor performance that Nikon's other CCD cameras do. Other than that they are pretty much the same camera. But if you really need convincing, bring a memory card into you nearest best buy and take a pic at ISO 1600 and compare it with the 400.


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Sep 10, 2007 20:23 |  #7

Especially with a D40(x) you’ll have fairly limited choice of lenses.
You now own a 50/1.8 – don’t you like to have a fast prime any more? There is not a single prime below 200mm that will autofocus on D40(x). Same goes for a lot more Nikkor lenses. And manual focussing is no fun with modern cameras due to the lack of any focussing assistance in the viewfinder – especially the D40 viewfinder for being small and dark, maybe even worse than on the 300D ;-)a.

It’s not always a single piece of gear, that makes the decision. It’r rather the whole system. On an EOS body, you can use any EF-lens of the past 20 years without restrictions and compromises – and you have a lot of them to chose from, also on the used market.

You’d be better off looking for a 350D, this will already be a huge upgrade to the 300D. Of course, a used 20D would be even nicer…

At least with the Sigma 17-70, a 350D will be capable of shots looking just as ‘crisp & sharp’ as the images you’ve seen from D40(x) – proper shooting and post processing assumed.




  
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Sep 10, 2007 20:32 |  #8

Sometimes when I get an urge for new gear, I take my current kit (or some portion of it) out for a shoot (of course, I have what might be considered a larger than average kit). I really try to challenge myself. I figure that if I can't shoot it with what I've got, then I can consider something new. That's usually enough to quell the new gear urge.

As for the competition, I don't even consider them. When I bought into Canon, I bought into a system, and I spent the time learning to use that system. I certainly don't have any urge to learn a new system when I still have more to learn about this one. Nikon (as a system) has nothing on Canon and vice versa, and I always advice new photographers to pick a system and stick with it.

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Sep 10, 2007 20:42 |  #9

I would personally take a break from photography,let the money grow in the bank. While that occurs, think about it, read about both etc.A 10D, or 20d sounds like a nice addition. But thats me. I have the D70, but then again I have canon. I prefer canon due to the quality such as noise, warmth and everything else. I will say though they have a good Flash system. What you could do is rent a nikon.


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Sep 10, 2007 20:47 as a reply to  @ Mark_Cohran's post |  #10

Meditation; do you think the D40 will give you better images or it's just that Nikon's gears will be more fun!? You will not get better quality picture from a D40. The 300D has a lot of potential even if it's an old camera. Put a good lens on it and nobody will know those images are coming from an old 6 MP sensor. But, if you think Nikon is more fun and you really like it (a sentimental decision) than why not give it a try!

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Sep 10, 2007 20:52 |  #11

Zwiz: Well done proving the 300D is capable of producing ‘crisp & sharp’ – short: stunning – pictures. Although I’d guess you weren’t using the kit lens for these ;-)a




  
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Sep 10, 2007 20:56 |  #12

Performa01 wrote in post #3903733 (external link)
Especially with a D40(x) you’ll have fairly limited choice of lenses.
You now own a 50/1.8 – don’t you like to have a fast prime any more? There is not a single prime below 200mm that will autofocus on D40(x). Same goes for a lot more Nikkor lenses. And manual focussing is no fun with modern cameras due to the lack of any focussing assistance in the viewfinder – especially the D40 viewfinder for being small and dark, maybe even worse than on the 300D ;-)a.

It’s not always a single piece of gear, that makes the decision. It’r rather the whole system. On an EOS body, you can use any EF-lens of the past 20 years without restrictions and compromises – and you have a lot of them to chose from, also on the used market.

You’d be better off looking for a 350D, this will already be a huge upgrade to the 300D. Of course, a used 20D would be even nicer…

At least with the Sigma 17-70, a 350D will be capable of shots looking just as ‘crisp & sharp’ as the images you’ve seen from D40(x) – proper shooting and post processing assumed.

IMHO, after having compared the two in a store, the D40 has a bigger viewfinder than the XTi.




  
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Sep 10, 2007 21:57 |  #13

Well one thing to consider is the D40x has a very limited lens selection compared to the other Nikons and the 3/400D series from Canon.

I dont remeber which it is, but the D40 will only except a certian type of Nikon lenses maybe someone else knows the paticulars...Im going to research it rite now.

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The D40x doesnt have a built in AF motor so it will only work with AF-S AF-I lenses, dont know the ins and outs of Nikon glass so you can do more in depth research if you want to.




  
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Sep 10, 2007 22:06 |  #14

stay with teh good side my son, tthe dark side is evil :)




  
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Sep 10, 2007 22:18 |  #15

If you were comparing the d40x, then it does a better job than the 300d IMO. Having said that, I would not shift makes for a whim.

Its about the pix not the pouch :)
Best, D.


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