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Sep 11, 2007 05:45 |  #16

$300 to replace the filter?
What the hell is it made of?
Can we purchase filters?
Can replacement be done our selves.

It's a piece of glass.

TRy claiming it on your house insurance as accidental damage


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Sep 11, 2007 06:00 |  #17

Sensors are not something to toy with. I watched a pro take one speck of dust out of a Nikon and he performed like a surgeon. He had the expensive kit and looked into the sensor to find the one speck and removed it. He said he hates doing it, but dust gets in not matter what. On the Nikons the dust appears as dark spots. Canons have "dust bunnies" in the sky.

Good luck with it and I hope you didn't really damage it.


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Sep 11, 2007 06:32 |  #18

SuzyView wrote in post #3906026 (external link)
Sensors are not something to toy with. I watched a pro take one speck of dust out of a Nikon and he performed like a surgeon. He had the expensive kit and looked into the sensor to find the one speck and removed it. He said he hates doing it, but dust gets in not matter what. On the Nikons the dust appears as dark spots. Canons have "dust bunnies" in the sky.

Good luck with it and I hope you didn't really damage it.

athat's put the wind up me about sensor cleaning - I was ready to get some cleaning kit but Im shy of it again now!


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Sep 11, 2007 06:38 |  #19

Just be careful. It has to get done. I use a rocket blower about once every 2 weeks.


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Sep 11, 2007 06:42 |  #20

SuzyView wrote in post #3906161 (external link)
Just be careful. It has to get done. I use a rocket blower about once every 2 weeks.

I tried a blowr once and it made everything 100 times worse

What else do you use ?


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Sep 11, 2007 06:46 |  #21

I Simonius wrote in post #3906183 (external link)
I tried a blowr once and it made everything 100 times worse

What else do you use ?

Most people use the blower first, and if that cant clear it they use good cleaning systems like 'Copper Hill'.

To date I have only used the blower.


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Sep 11, 2007 07:14 |  #22

Ron1004 wrote in post #3906198 (external link)
Most people use the blower first, and if that cant clear it they use good cleaning systems like 'Copper Hill'.

To date I have only used the blower.

but someonne just posted that tey scratche teir sensor with copperhill:cry:


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Sep 11, 2007 07:20 as a reply to  @ I Simonius's post |  #23

We still maintain that the odds of damaging an AA-filter are minuscule as long as you take it seriously. The very few people who have had problems with our tools have all confessed to slipping up somewhere along the line. From what we were told by the OP, we can assume that he either did not visually inspect the sensor before swabbing it or he pressed down way too hard. Unfortunately, we can't get any more information from him thus far so we'll all have to keep guessing.

Our products come with brochures that specifically state that our on-line tutorial is an essential adjunct and should be read at least once. And as far as the "canned air" being used on a sensor, it goes without saying that the can must remain upright and should be used in short bursts, not a prolonged stream. We feel that accidentally getting propellant on the filter is much more preferable than swabbing with a foreign object on it.

But the biggest caution we have is our strong recommendation that if you cannot dislodge the particle from the sensor, you should absolutely send it to the manufacturer for cleaning. If you plan to clean your sensor, you MUST do the basics before you have at it.

And once again, the sensor cleaning FUD has reared its ugly head to divide us into 3 groups:
1) those of us who take this job seriously, master the basics and have been doing it successfully for many years
2) those who read a thread like this and say - "No way I'm even going to consider self-cleaning my sensor, see what can happen? "
3) those who can maintain an open mind about a situation like this and realize that for every mishap like the OP's, there are literally tens of thousands of successful swabbings taking place every day.

We can confidently say that the odds of you being in an auto accident today are incredibly higher than damaging your sensor by swabbing it. So the people in group #2 who have now been paralyzed by FUD will probably never clean their sensors and may think twice about getting into a car again.

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Sep 11, 2007 07:39 |  #24

Sensor cleaning is easy and relatively risk-free if you're calm and careful about it, use the right kit, and follow the instructions.

FWIW I use Copperhill gear without any problems whatsoever.




  
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Sep 11, 2007 07:42 |  #25

Nicholas, what's the preferred method for contacting you? I bought your kit and am having some difficulty getting my sensor cleaned. The dust is gone but in the process either some lubricant from near the aa-filter got on the sensor or some other type of liquid is on the sensor. And it doesn't seem to want to come off. I assume the e2 always completely evaporates so it couldn't be too much e2 (I used 2 drops on the pec pad.) I'd like to send you a picture so you can take a look at it and get your input.. Thanks!


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Sep 11, 2007 07:46 |  #26

Nicholas R. wrote in post #3906338 (external link)
We can confidently say that the odds of you being in an auto accident today are incredibly higher than damaging your sensor by swabbing it. So the people in group #2 who have now been paralyzed by FUD will probably never clean their sensors and may think twice about getting into a car again.

Nicholas

Not te best analogy although I understand the point you are trying to make but as I have been driving for 40 years, I know what to expect, what to anticipate - I'm in control, and my life depends on that.

The concern with any new to me cleaning system is that it is an unknown already, none are endorsed by the manufacturers ( bound to make you nervous that alone) each differnt system introduces extra unknowns into the equation

Saying what amounts essentially to 'don't be such a scaredy cat' isn't actually helpful to someone who has not done it before. What is helpful is recognising that it can go wrong and to give more information on how it can go wrong and how to avaoid those pitfalls, how to practice before hand etc

Im not saying I won't get one system of te other and Im not really afraid of using them , I just want as much info as possible and to hear where others have gone wrong and why

Re: Eclipse, I would reiterate that it is not confidence inspiring to know that there is some discrepancy over whcih version to use for te 5D and it sounds bit trial and error at the moment , although I haven't followed up on my investifgations about 6 months ago yet


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Sep 11, 2007 07:48 |  #27

What amazes me is how Copperhill know that the OP was going to post here at POTN.




  
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Sep 11, 2007 07:55 |  #28

lostdoggy wrote in post #3906462 (external link)
What amazes me is how Copperhill know that the OP was going to post here at POTN.

hey good point, but if they're psychic they knew you were goig to say that!;):p


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Sep 11, 2007 08:01 as a reply to  @ lostdoggy's post |  #29

The poster had been in contact with us yesterday morning about this after he sent his camera to Canon and I usually cruise the forums and saw this thread. I fail to see your point about how I somehow "knew" the OP would be posting here. He did not seem vindictive in his correspondence, just very upset. What am I supposed to do? Not give the other side to his opening post?

I don't expect to get into an accident either, but I have had 3 deer jump in front of my car over the last few years - 3 smashed in frontends. Anyone who says you can be prepared for everything is just plain silly. STUFF happens, you do the absolute best you can to be prepared for everything, but sometimes stuff happens.

We have a comprehensive website detailing ad nauseum every nuance of sensor swabbing and to suggest otherwise shows you have never visited our site.

Get in touch with us here;
http://www.copperhilli​mages.com/index.php?pr​=contactus (external link)

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Sep 11, 2007 08:14 as a reply to  @ Nicholas R.'s post |  #30

Yikes, this is scary, I'm not sure I'll ever clean my sensor!

As for the home insurance claim, most will have a $1000 deductable, and if you make more than one claim in a period year, you will be looked at by your ins. co. under a microscope. Possibly even dropped. Don't ask me how I know, but suffice it to say that I will never be making a claim on my home ins. policy again that is less than $5000. Get a seperate personal article policy on your photo gear. Mine costs like $30/yr and covers everything with no deductable. Even if I lose it.


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