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Sep 14, 2007 09:19 |  #1

SanDisk CompactFlash 5000 Industrial Grade

Anyone going to be buying one of these for their DSLR? Sure looks like a good safety net.

SanDisk blurb:
http://www.sandisk.com​/OEM/ProductCatalog(13​24)-CompactFlash_5000_Indu​strial_Grade.aspx (external link)

Example Pricing:
http://www.wdlsystems.​com/... ...s.cgi?r=detail&prod​_num=1SFIRX8&aisle_id=​899 (external link)




  
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Sep 14, 2007 12:20 |  #2
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The sandisk link doesn't work. I'm assuming that industrial grade is for people in harsh conditions like salt water or dusty environments. It probably has more sealing and can stand extreme humidity. The regular ultra series is good enough for me. Plus, $278 for an 8GB is quite high.


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Sep 14, 2007 14:07 |  #3

what confuses me is how there is no mention of just how fast this card is. certainly it has to be quite fast? or is it just very durable?


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Sep 14, 2007 18:12 as a reply to  @ midget's post |  #4

Try this side for info.

http://www.sandisk.com …000_Industrial_​Grade.aspx (external link)




  
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Sep 14, 2007 18:53 |  #5

midget wrote in post #3930167 (external link)
what confuses me is how there is no mention of just how fast this card is. certainly it has to be quite fast? or is it just very durable?

30 megabytes/sec.

Thank you for correcting the link.




  
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Sep 15, 2007 20:42 |  #6

No big deal. It is primarily a extended temp card probably -40 to +85C (although they don't say) instead of the standard 0-70C. They also test it to a mil standard packaging spec testing to environmental conditions that you would NEVER take your camera into.

This is probably much more of a deal for applications involving data collection in equipment that might be in a remote area for a long period of time - think railroad car, truck, weather station etc... It has little application in photography.

The memory chips that are in this device are no different than the ones that come in the card you buy retail. They are just tested to extended temp and there is a higher charge for that. Typically a very high percentage of the flash devices will run at those temps so it isn't a big deal.

The controller with its error checking (more than in is yours - where there is some) may have compatibility issues with your camera unless someone has checked this.

IMO, this is way, way, way, way overkill for photographic use.

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Sep 18, 2007 01:25 as a reply to  @ JohnJ80's post |  #7

These are designed primarily for industrial equipment like CNC machines and the like... probably more than anyone would ever need for photogaphy purposes.


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Sep 18, 2007 10:58 as a reply to  @ derky82's post |  #8

What had me interested was the Mean Time to Failure. The Extreme III is only 1,000,000. This card is 3,000,000. It also does better leveling writes across the card.




  
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Sep 18, 2007 11:06 |  #9

MTTF of 1,000,000 expressed in what units? I didn't see that.

If it is hours, I would not worry about it. It will last longer than you will.

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Sep 18, 2007 11:15 |  #10

According to the Product Manual, MTBF is 4,000,000 hours. That's about 6x my MTBF.


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Sep 18, 2007 11:39 |  #11

Jon wrote in post #3956181 (external link)
According to the Product Manual, MTBF is 4,000,000 hours. That's about 6x my MTBF.

Actually Jon, it's probably more like 3x your MTBF; remember, one cannot use MTBF as a reliable indicator of the life expectancy of a single item, so one cannot rightly make a comparison based on their own life expectancy. ;)

For all we know, the expected life span of these units could be a year or less... there's simply no way of knowing from the published MTBF value alone.


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Sep 18, 2007 11:45 |  #12

http://www.sandisk.com …l_Grade_Product​_Brief.pdf (external link)

Application:
CompactFlash 5000 provides rugged and reliable data storage solutions for mission-critical applications such as routers, switches, PBX, wearable computers, industrial PCs and point of sale (POS) equipment.

Operating Environment:
• Shock, vibration and altitude comply with MIL-STD-810F
• Operating temperature
– Commercial: 0°C to +70°C
– Extended: -25°C to +85°C
• Storage temperature: -40°C to +95°C
• Humidity: 8% to 95% non-condensing

In other words, it's for NASA. Not you and your XTi.


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Sep 18, 2007 11:52 |  #13

SimonG wrote in post #3956328 (external link)
Actually Jon, it's probably more like 3x your MTBF; remember, one cannot use MTBF as a reliable indicator of the life expectancy of a single item, so one cannot rightly make a comparison based on their own life expectancy. ;)

For all we know, the expected life span of these units could be a year or less... there's simply no way of knowing from the published MTBF value alone.

4,000,000 hours is on the order of 450 years; average life expectancy (MTBF) for humans in the US is around 70+ years. So, yeah, 6x.


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Sep 18, 2007 11:53 |  #14

cdifoto wrote in post #3956357 (external link)
http://www.sandisk.com …l_Grade_Product​_Brief.pdf (external link)

In other words, it's for NASA. Not you and your XTi.

Nope - altitude 80,000 ft. and the temperature range is too narrow. It's not for them either.


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Sep 18, 2007 12:01 |  #15

Jon wrote in post #3956399 (external link)
4,000,000 hours is on the order of 450 years; average life expectancy (MTBF) for humans in the US is around 70+ years. So, yeah, 6x.

Like I said Jon, one cannot use a MTBF value in the context of life expectancy. For example, a person my age has a MTBF of approximately 650 person-years (derived from 155 "failures" per 100k person-years), which is well in excess of my life expectancy. Remember, MTBF is a measure of the failure rate during the constant failure phase of an object's life span; properly used it is a measure of reliability, not the item's expected life.


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