You know I'm just pulling your leg:p. Can't let the picture judge leave before the end of the contest 
and you know, I've thought a lot about it, and am genuinely impressed that as a group they do seem to care about the image they give off (which is very different from before) and they do seem to be making steps to change that. I read a lot of new threads and while I admit that I missed the one the Chief referred to, I see a lot of people offering basic advice to questions that they would have ridiculed or slammed before. And really, it's very nice to see a shift over there. While I feel like I'll always be persona non-grata there, I do see a huge change in the dynamic over the course of the last 6 weeks...baby steps at first but more radical as they really "saw" their image in others eyes.
It's been very instructive to me too...examining myself I mean....and while I still am a terrible cut up, I am trying to be more aware of how I represent myself.
I really do not see much of the 'bad' in the WF as all the mods do a great job of cleaning up the spills when they do happen. All in all....I do noitce though that there is not much banter around about someone being mean to another person n00b...as I would have seen only 4 to 6 weeks ago.
belmondo wrote in post #4007960
The specific incident they seemed to be most offended by was when CDS 'punished' Permie by banning her to WF. They were particularly insulted that a moderator was involved. I can understand that, and I apologized on behalf of the forum. They're still a little 'cool' to me, but we're making progress.

So they did not care that Izak (the_incubus) was banished there one night by CDS?? THAT was classic
I still laugh about it today.