Going for grainy

Thoughts on this one? I've been trying to give my black and whites a less polished feel to them so they didn't look so... "digital" I guess is the word

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I like it. That's a nice amount of grit and a nice conversion. I laugh too at times when I'm using Photoshop to "rough" my images up. The tools of the trade..

It could be taken further, I think. Add more schmutz through channels would help.

It is hard to tell at this resolution. Can we see a 100% crop from 2 different places within the image?

I like the amount of 'noise' added but not so sure on the toning....were you going for a selenium look?

Is it you? looks a bit like 'squarepusher'

I like it. I need to be able to think more like this. All of my stuff looks too "digital". This has some soul.

Gamut wrote in post #3968569
It could be taken further, I think. Add more schmutz through channels would help.

What do you mean? I'd love to try it, unfortunately I never found the schmutz tutorial

andrewaaa5 wrote in post #3969267
It is hard to tell at this resolution. Can we see a 100% crop from 2 different places within the image?

I could post that from home, sure.

bikerider wrote in post #3976343
I like the amount of 'noise' added but not so sure on the toning....were you going for a selenium look?

Thanks Roger.

To be honest, I was just going for a duotone, I don't know the characteristics of nothin

Although you did give me a good idea which is to look at some actual film pritns and try and recreate the toning on those. Now and again it shows that I've never even seen a piece of celuloid up close

andrewaaa5 wrote in post #3976809
Is it you? looks a bit like 'squarepusher'

That'd be my ugly mug, yep

Mills wrote in post #3976994
I like it. I need to be able to think more like this. All of my stuff looks too "digital". This has some soul.

Yeah I can't quite explain what it is but there's a certain look that for whatever reason conveys something entirely different because it's roughed up. It's as though there's more emphasis on the photograph as a thing because it has it's own characteristics, rather than just the photograph as a capture of the subject, if that makes any sense.

There's a british photographer named Andy Farrington I've talked with alot who is IMO the master of this sort of stuff. Alot of his photos have a really gritty feel to them while still being incredibly beautiful, and he uses a 5D and 85 1.2 for most of his stuff, so alot of the grit is added post process. Mind you, the guy does use some film and has a holga which he uses from time to time, and those most certainly don't need any help looking a bit rough :P

Rich interesting that you should be exploring these issues, I think film is having a bit of resurgence from a professional point of view also. I just read an interview on the 'strobist' blog with an Austin based tog, Kirk Tuck where he describes using film for the look and feel. The article made me want to get my medium format gear sent over lol.

I'm not picky enough to know how close it comes to looking like film, but I really like the effect of the grain, and it's a nice shot!

I LOVE it! Mills took the words out of my mouth!
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