is the new 40d the next step up from a 400d !

AussieCat wrote in post #3988388
ok fair point but the 40d has a kit lens that is worth $1000

compard to the kits lens on the 400d that is worth $300

hence - is this already a good upgrade?

It's only a good upgrade if you want/need the lens. Don't get the kit if it's just cause the lens is a good deal.

As for the cameras from entry to top end of the cameras still listed on the Canon Digital EOS website:

-350D/Rebel XT ~$500
-400D/Rebel XTi ~$700
-30D ~$950
-40D ~$1300
-5D ~$2500
-1D mark III ~$4500
-1Ds mark III ~$8000

thanks gooble

cool name by the way.

yeah - im set on getting the 40d now.

it just has some features that outbeat the 400d.

no one seems to care about spot metering, but i lov ethat feature.

its on the 40d as well as that sweet new larger screen
and double the amount of frames per second.

wow.

gooble wrote in post #3988592
It's only a good upgrade if you want/need the lens. Don't get the kit if it's just cause the lens is a good deal.

As for the cameras from entry to top end of the cameras still listed on the Canon Digital EOS website:

-350D/Rebel XT ~$500
-400D/Rebel XTi ~$700
-30D ~$950
-40D ~$1300
-5D ~$2500
-1D mark III ~$4500
-1Ds mark III ~$8000

On the contrary, many people care about spot metering. I think that a lot of people are considering 20d/30D -> upgrade to 40D, in which case spot metering wasn't considered since, I believe, all these cameras have it.

Spot metering is a fairly crucial addition, if you're comparing to an XXXD series.

AussieCat wrote in post #3983066
interestinhg

u still wanna go for the 30d over the newer 40d

Yes, I have found the XTi to very capable, but it just lacks in a few areas, mainly FPS, for me. Saving $550 for a few feature edge over the 400D compared to the 40D is fine for me. Getting decent shots is more important than braging about a camera

evandavies wrote in post #3978743
The 40D is LESS light sensitive than the 30D by 2/3 of a stop.

Thank god...and here, I thought I was going absolutely mental having to dial in +1 EC.

kool

Ronald S. Jr. wrote in post #3993665
Thank god...and here, I thought I was going absolutely mental having to dial in +1 EC.

Dont have my manual here and am away for 3 weeks, It is very bad in low light unless you adjust the ISO, How do i adjust the EC??

AussieCat, the "kit" lens can be whatever lens you want it to be if you buy the 40D body only. Spec out the lenses individually and buy the one that does what you want it to do. I'll throw one out there for you... The Canon EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS. It would be perfect for the red carpet work you want to do, and it is arguably the best walk-around lens available for the 40D.

I went from the XTi (400D) and here are my findings.
1. The 40D is just better built and has a better feel. It has more metal in the body and is rated for 100K clicks instead of 50K clicks. I don't need a grip to go with the 40D. Even the flash has its own motor instead of just a spring loaded mechanism. The Quick control dial is much easier than he toggle switch on the XTi. The VF is bigger and brighter. I like seeing the ISO in the viewfinder.
2. The AF is much faster and more accurate.
3. The 40D has some bells and whistles I'm finding indespisible. Live View is great, don't let people poo-poo this feature. If you do any macro or astrological stuff or just want to sharply focus, put it on live view and use the 10X multiplier! Tack sharp isn't the word. The Live View is also cool to change your WB settings and actually see how they make a difference (good for creative stuff). The custom mode dial settings are great (C1,C2, C3). If you suffer from ADD like I do, it really helps to have your shooting settings pre-programmed.
4. You can shoot 6.5 frames per second. Really.
With all that said, the IQ I find to be very similar. If IQ is all you care about, it probably isn't a good reason to upgrade. And, the ON switch is better on the XTi.
My .02 worth.

Wouldn't the spot meter feature be ideal for macro work???

I was contemplating moving up to the 30D just because of the heavier feel and supposedly more sturdy build. My stuff takes a beating. I got to lay hands on the 30D and 40D together last weekend, and the 30D actually felt better to me, but they were asking $1500.00 for either one of them, so if that was the way it was going to be, I'd think you'd be better off getting the newer one, but don't know. I believe the lens was a 28-135mm zoom.

Are either one of them any more water resistant than the XT/XTi series, or not really?

Either way, unless I go in debt, big time, it would be next year before I could afford either one, and hopefully the price would drop a bit by then.

wow

kool

i never thought about getting body only,

then lkens u mentioned im sure is good but i dont know if its ideal as 17-55 is not much of a zoom in lenght

prime80 wrote in post #4004224
AussieCat, the "kit" lens can be whatever lens you want it to be if you buy the 40D body only. Spec out the lenses individually and buy the one that does what you want it to do. I'll throw one out there for you... The Canon EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS. It would be perfect for the red carpet work you want to do, and it is arguably the best walk-around lens available for the 40D.

hi, u wrote:

Even the flash has its own motor instead of just a spring loaded mechanism.


does this mean that the recylce time for the internal flash would be much better than say the 400d...

irish1 wrote in post #4004872
I went from the XTi (400D) and here are my findings.
1. The 40D is just better built and has a better feel. It has more metal in the body and is rated for 100K clicks instead of 50K clicks. I don't need a grip to go with the 40D. Even the flash has its own motor instead of just a spring loaded mechanism. The Quick control dial is much easier than he toggle switch on the XTi. The VF is bigger and brighter. I like seeing the ISO in the viewfinder.
2. The AF is much faster and more accurate.
3. The 40D has some bells and whistles I'm finding indespisible. Live View is great, don't let people poo-poo this feature. If you do any macro or astrological stuff or just want to sharply focus, put it on live view and use the 10X multiplier! Tack sharp isn't the word. The Live View is also cool to change your WB settings and actually see how they make a difference (good for creative stuff). The custom mode dial settings are great (C1,C2, C3). If you suffer from ADD like I do, it really helps to have your shooting settings pre-programmed.
4. You can shoot 6.5 frames per second. Really.
With all that said, the IQ I find to be very similar. If IQ is all you care about, it probably isn't a good reason to upgrade. And, the ON switch is better on the XTi.
My .02 worth.

u wrote:

The Live View is also cool to change your WB settings and actually see how they make a difference (good for creative stuff).



wow- what a good point.

has anyone here noticed that this is a good feature as such?

irish1 wrote in post #4004872
I went from the XTi (400D) and here are my findings.
1. The 40D is just better built and has a better feel. It has more metal in the body and is rated for 100K clicks instead of 50K clicks. I don't need a grip to go with the 40D. Even the flash has its own motor instead of just a spring loaded mechanism. The Quick control dial is much easier than he toggle switch on the XTi. The VF is bigger and brighter. I like seeing the ISO in the viewfinder.
2. The AF is much faster and more accurate.
3. The 40D has some bells and whistles I'm finding indespisible. Live View is great, don't let people poo-poo this feature. If you do any macro or astrological stuff or just want to sharply focus, put it on live view and use the 10X multiplier! Tack sharp isn't the word. The Live View is also cool to change your WB settings and actually see how they make a difference (good for creative stuff). The custom mode dial settings are great (C1,C2, C3). If you suffer from ADD like I do, it really helps to have your shooting settings pre-programmed.
4. You can shoot 6.5 frames per second. Really.
With all that said, the IQ I find to be very similar. If IQ is all you care about, it probably isn't a good reason to upgrade. And, the ON switch is better on the XTi.
My .02 worth.

u wrote:

The AF is much faster and more accurate.

sorry if im a bit slow - but is this an internal mechinisim of some sort on the body

or is that just cause the lens is better that comes with the 40d

irish1 wrote in post #4004872
I went from the XTi (400D) and here are my findings.
1. The 40D is just better built and has a better feel. It has more metal in the body and is rated for 100K clicks instead of 50K clicks. I don't need a grip to go with the 40D. Even the flash has its own motor instead of just a spring loaded mechanism. The Quick control dial is much easier than he toggle switch on the XTi. The VF is bigger and brighter. I like seeing the ISO in the viewfinder.
2. The AF is much faster and more accurate.
3. The 40D has some bells and whistles I'm finding indespisible. Live View is great, don't let people poo-poo this feature. If you do any macro or astrological stuff or just want to sharply focus, put it on live view and use the 10X multiplier! Tack sharp isn't the word. The Live View is also cool to change your WB settings and actually see how they make a difference (good for creative stuff). The custom mode dial settings are great (C1,C2, C3). If you suffer from ADD like I do, it really helps to have your shooting settings pre-programmed.
4. You can shoot 6.5 frames per second. Really.
With all that said, the IQ I find to be very similar. If IQ is all you care about, it probably isn't a good reason to upgrade. And, the ON switch is better on the XTi.
My .02 worth.