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Sep 21, 2007 17:26 |  #1

I had a 50mm f/1.8 MKii & just picked up a minty MKi at almost the same price as a new Mkii. What a great deal I thought.

As soon as it arrived and inspected the optics I posted the Mkii for sale (which lasted a few hours) & mailed it out this morning.

Now after playing with the Mki I've noticed a few things.

Build: Definately better. Not only the metal mount but the body feels more rigid too. There is a little more weight to it, but not much.

Optics: A few test shots I'm happy with the IQ. pretty much the same as the MKii...sharp but with a funky bokeh that you get with a 5 blade aperature.

Autofocus: This is the question that's popping up. Is it me or is the focusing noticably slower than the MKii? I can't do a direct comparision under similar conditions b/c the Mkii is already out and shipped.

I was using the 50 f/1.8 MKii on a 5D I remember it being pretty fast. Haven't used it on my 40D though.

Now with the Mki on the 40D it just seems slower. Does anyone have both that have tested the autofocus directly. I've always heard the MKi is slightly slower but not this feels more noticable.


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Sep 21, 2007 17:31 |  #2

The Af on the Mk I is slightly slower, but seems more accurate. However, the latter is a feeling, not something I tested when playing with a bunch of 50 F/1.8 IIs.

The Mk I has an AFD drive, the Mk II a micro motor, which probably causes the difference in focusing speed.

Did you check the the turning angle required between Mk I and II from infinity to closest focus? I didn't, but if there is a difference, this may also account for difference in focusing speed.

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Sep 21, 2007 17:41 |  #3

The Mk I is slower, but I like it better overall then the Mk II


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Sep 21, 2007 17:41 |  #4

I didn't really do any specific test. I was just shot a few quick snap shots and it just seemed slower. But to tell you the truth, I haven't shot with the 50mm MKii in a long time. So maybe I'm just used to the speed of USM lenses or because of the lighting or just being paronoid.


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Sep 21, 2007 17:46 |  #5

drjiveturkey wrote in post #3980667 (external link)
I didn't really do any specific test. I was just shot a few quick snap shots and it just seemed slower. But to tell you the truth, I haven't shot with the 50mm MKii in a long time. So maybe I'm just used to the speed of USM lenses or because of the lighting or just being paronoid.

Well, I must say I find that after using USM lenses, I don't necessarily want to use anything else anymore, unless it is a very, very special lens. I think I'll sell my 50 Mk I again, and maybe even quite soon.

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Sep 22, 2007 12:22 |  #6

The optics are identical so the images should look the same under same conditions.
The Mk I version has USM with FTM focusing, so I'm a bit surprised that it AF's slower, but the MK II version does AF fairly fast, so I wouldn't be surprised either. The MK I's are all getting pretty old, could it be due to a failing AF motor?


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Sep 22, 2007 15:26 |  #7

Tee Why wrote in post #3984851 (external link)
The Mk I version has USM with FTM focusing,

????????????? ????????? Mine doesn't.


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Sep 22, 2007 19:13 |  #8

Tee Why wrote in post #3984851 (external link)
The optics are identical so the images should look the same under same conditions.
The Mk I version has USM with FTM focusing, so I'm a bit surprised that it AF's slower, but the MK II version does AF fairly fast, so I wouldn't be surprised either. The MK I's are all getting pretty old, could it be due to a failing AF motor?

I think you are confusing this lens with another. We are talking about the 50 F/1.8 here. There was/is no USM 50 F/1.8, and neither of the two have/had FTM.

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Oct 01, 2007 16:13 |  #9

Sorry, it doesn't have USM, but I thought this had FTM, no?
http://www.canon.com …tandard/ef_50_1​8.html?p=1 (external link)


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Oct 01, 2007 16:38 |  #10

No. Generally only "Ring Type" USM lenses have Full Time Manual focus.

Maybe you are thinking of the 50mm 1.4

The 50mm 1.4 actually has a cheap "Micro Motor USM, but it also has a slip clutch mechanisms which let you use FTM in a fashion similar to a ring USM lens.


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