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Sep 22, 2007 18:19 |  #1

Can someone please explain to me what the term "crop" means? I keep seeing references to it. Which models are crops?

Thanks for your help and patience with a rookie.




  
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Sep 22, 2007 18:25 |  #2

http://www.digital-slr-guide.com/crop-factor.html (external link)


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Sep 22, 2007 18:26 |  #3

Rebel, Rebel XTi, (300D, 400D). 1.6 crop means 1.6 "zoom". 10mm = 16mm on a 1.6 crop, so 10mm in a 1.6 crop equals 16mm in a Ful Frame (no crop) body


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Sep 22, 2007 18:27 |  #4

300D/350D/400D and the 10D/20D/30D/40D etc. lines have 1.6x cropped sensors (when compared to full-frame you only "see" and record the middle bit of the frame, the edges are ignored.

1d/1dII/1dIIN/1d3 is a 1.3x crop.

5D/1ds/1dsII/1dsIII are full-frame - i.e. the digital sensor is the same size as a film negative.


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Sep 22, 2007 18:28 |  #5

Main Entry: 2crop
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): cropped; crop·ping
transitive verb
1 a : to remove the upper or outer parts of <crop a hedge> <crop a dog's ears> b : HARVEST <crop trout> c : to cut off short : TRIM <crop a photograph>

in this case, 1:c works well. the term "crop body" is really a misnomer started by the fact that the sensor size is smaller than a 35mm piece of film, and is therefore a cropped sensor (cropped out 35mm). in a way, we tend to use crop as a ratio of the sensor size to a 35mm one. the 5d and 1ds lines are full frame (35mm, no "crop"), 1d are APS-H (aka 1.3 crop), and the rest of the eos line are APS-C (aka 1.6 crop)


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Sep 22, 2007 18:30 |  #6

D30, D60, 10D, 20D, 30D, 40D, 300D, 350D, 400D = 1.6x crop (APS-C)
1D, 1D Mark II, 1D Mark II N, 1D Mark III = 1.3x crop (APS-H)
1Ds, 1Ds Mark II, 1Ds Mark III, 5D = 35mm equivalent (Full Frame)

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Sep 22, 2007 18:31 as a reply to  @ Lord_Malone's post |  #7

Good lord! By the time it took me to write out the Canon DSLR list all these responses took place! :(


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Sep 22, 2007 18:36 |  #8

Gee, all these replies by the time I read the Lord's link.

Great info everyone, thank you all.




  
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Sep 22, 2007 22:16 |  #9

Cr4zYH3aD wrote in post #3986224 (external link)
Rebel, Rebel XTi, (300D, 400D). 1.6 crop means 1.6 "zoom". 10mm = 16mm on a 1.6 crop, so 10mm in a 1.6 crop equals 16mm in a Ful Frame (no crop) body

Not quite :) . It's not a "zoom" factor, it's a crop. a 24mm lens on a full frame camera is still a 24mm lens on a crop camera. For the example you gave a 10mm lens on a 1.6 crop camera has the same "field of view" as a 16mm lens on full frame.


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Sep 22, 2007 22:51 |  #10

Bob_A wrote in post #3987334 (external link)
Not quite :) . It's not a "zoom" factor, it's a crop. a 24mm lens on a full frame camera is still a 24mm lens on a crop camera. For the example you gave a 10mm lens on a 1.6 crop camera has the same "field of view" as a 16mm lens on full frame.

You are absolutely correct Bob. This has been beat to death a few times. When possible we should let the new guys think that the 1.6 cameras give them more "zoom" and they can sort out the gory details later. :lol:


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