First few shots from my 5D

Congrats the on the 5D! I surely love mine! Great pics! Get some ducks to make it official! =)

The 5D has a 1x crop factor, this is why it's better when using the 50mm lens on this body?

I am using a Tamron 17-55 F2.8 lens. I do plan on purchasing the 24-70mm L lens in the near future.

Nick_C wrote in post #4020196
Some will say you can get near 5D quality with the 40D, while there are also others that have tried the 40D & say its nothing more than a 30D with a few extras.

I would suggest you try the 5D (if you can afford it) to see for yourself.

Remember the 5D & 40D are completely different, one being full frame, the other a cropped body the same as your 400D (XTI), they require a different strategy when deciding what lenses to buy, as a 50mm f/1.4 is far better on the 5D than it is on the 40D (so I hear) as you already know a 50mm is also more like 80mm on the 40D, so you can see for wideangle you have to purchase even wider lenses than what you do for a 5D.

Its really down to what you shoot the most, for landscapes most people will agree the 5D is king, or at least those that have tried it will, some will say you can get away with a 10-22 on a cropped body but ive been there & its not quite as enjoyable, seeing a wide scene through a smaller viewfinder isnt great if your using the camera all day.

Personally if I were you I would buy better glass, I dont know what you use now but your 400D (XTI) is a very good camera & from what I have seen on comparisons between the 400D & 40D there isnt a major difference, it might just be a case of needing to perfect your own talent a little further before blaiming the gear, I hope that doesnt offend you by me saying that, im not trying to down your own skills, what would I know!

sinitry23 wrote in post #4020257
The 5D has a 1x crop factor, this is why it's better when using the 50mm lens on this body?

I am using a Tamron 17-55 F2.8 lens. I do plan on purchasing the 24-70mm L lens in the near future.

Yes all this means is that a 50mm lens on a 5D is a 50mm lens! a 50mm on a camera like yours looks more like an 80mm mounted on a 5D.

I hear lots of good things about the 24-70, but remember that this wont be very wide on your camera, you can actually see this for yourself, simply set your Tamron to just slightly under 40mm & this is how wide the 24-70 will look when mounted on your camera, for me its not wide enough for landscapes.

sinitry23 wrote in post #4019929
Wow sharp pictures. Are you using a L lens? No photoshop enahancements? Was a tripod used?

Will I get good quality pictures like this on my XTI?

Yes, I used the 17-40mm L lens for those shots as Nick pointed out. It's actually the only lens I have so far since I just made the switch to Canon from Nikon. Yes, a tripod was used. I forgot to mentioned that I had a UV Filter attached. I'm curious to know if using the UV filter at night may degrade image quality a little?? Maybe some expert here can help answer that. I put it on for protection purpose. My passion for getting into photography happened one day last winter when I stumbled across a website that posted many beautiful night landscape shots. Thus, I started my research and here I am still trying to learn. I'm still very new to photography in general as I have no experience whatsoever. I spend most of my time at the bookstores and online reading whatever that I can. I've also learned a lot from this forum as I searched around and read some of the old threads.

MR2nice wrote in post #4020318
Yes, I used the 17-40mm L lens for those shots as Nick pointed out. It's actually the only lens I have so far since I just made the switch to Canon from Nikon. Yes, a tripod was used. I forgot to mentioned that I had a UV Filter attached. I'm curious to know if using the UV filter at night may degrade image quality a little?? Maybe some expert here can help answer that. I put it on for protection purpose. My passion for getting into photography happened one day last winter when I stumbled across a website that posted many beautiful night landscape shots. Thus, I started my research and here I am still trying to learn. I'm still very new to photography in general as I have no experience whatsoever. I spend most of my time at the bookstores and online reading whatever that I can. I've also learned a lot from this forum as I searched around and read some of the old threads.

learning pretty quick then too

MR2nice wrote in post #4020318
Yes, I used the 17-40mm L lens for those shots as Nick pointed out. It's actually the only lens I have so far since I just made the switch to Canon from Nikon. Yes, a tripod was used. I forgot to mentioned that I had a UV Filter attached. I'm curious to know if using the UV filter at night may degrade image quality a little?? Maybe some expert here can help answer that. I put it on for protection purpose. My passion for getting into photography happened one day last winter when I stumbled across a website that posted many beautiful night landscape shots. Thus, I started my research and here I am still trying to learn. I'm still very new to photography in general as I have no experience whatsoever. I spend most of my time at the bookstores and online reading whatever that I can. I've also learned a lot from this forum as I searched around and read some of the old threads.

It depends on what UV filter was used, if its a good quality one then you wouldnt notice any differences which has been shown in lots of tests recently, a bad quality one though will have a large effect!

Nick_C wrote in post #4020342
It depends on what UV filter was used, if its a good quality one then you wouldnt notice any differences which has been shown in lots of tests recently, a bad quality one though will have a large effect!

I'm currently using the B & W 77mm UV (Ultra Violet) Haze Multi Coated (2C) Glass Filter. I researched on this forum and many have said to be a good one. I also have one from Hoya as well.

jdizzle wrote in post #4020247
Congrats the on the 5D! I surely love mine! Great pics! Get some ducks to make it official! =)

Thanks! I will go duck hunting this weekend then.

Nick_C wrote in post #4020290
Yes all this means is that a 50mm lens on a 5D is a 50mm lens! a 50mm on a camera like yours looks more like an 80mm mounted on a 5D.

I hear lots of good things about the 24-70, but remember that this wont be very wide on your camera, you can actually see this for yourself, simply set your Tamron to just slightly under 40mm & this is how wide the 24-70 will look when mounted on your camera, for me its not wide enough for landscapes.

Sorry, this is incorrect. The 17-50 at 24mm is exactly the same as the 24-70 at 24mm the lenses designed for smaller sensors can't cover larger sensors, but focal length has nothing to do with the sensor size. A 50mm lens is also a 50mm lens on both bodies, field of view and focal length are two different things.

formula4speed wrote in post #4020555
Sorry, this is incorrect. The 17-50 at 24mm is exactly the same as the 24-70 at 24mm the lenses designed for smaller sensors can't cover larger sensors, but focal length has nothing to do with the sensor size. A 50mm lens is also a 50mm lens on both bodies, field of view and focal length are two different things.

Oops yes your correct, my mistake (was in a hurry as I was off out), yes you set the 17-50 to 24mm, NOT 40mm.

I cant believe I actually came up with that load of cobblers!

Nick_C wrote in post #4020290
Yes all this means is that a 50mm lens on a 5D is a 50mm lens! a 50mm on a camera like yours looks more like an 80mm mounted on a 5D.

formula4speed wrote in post #4020555
Sorry, this is incorrect. The 17-50 at 24mm is exactly the same as the 24-70 at 24mm the lenses designed for smaller sensors can't cover larger sensors, but focal length has nothing to do with the sensor size. A 50mm lens is also a 50mm lens on both bodies, field of view and focal length are two different things.

I don't see anything wrong with what Nick said. He did not mention field of view or focal length. And yes, if you look at the print, a 50mm on 1.6 looks like an 80mm on a FF.

I agree with what formual4speed is saying but this is all a bit confusing for someone new. Can't we just tell them what the effects look like and let them soak up the gory details of "why" later.

DDan wrote in post #4021319
I don't see anything wrong with what Nick said. He did not mention field of view or focal length. And yes, if you look at the print, a 50mm on 1.6 looks like an 80mm on a FF.

I agree with what formual4speed is saying but this is all a bit confusing for someone new. Can't we just tell them what the effects look like and let them soak up the gory details of "why" later.

Yes all of what I said was correct.

The part in question was that to simulate what a 24-70 looks like on a 1.6x body, he had to set his 17-55 to 24mm, NOT 40mm as I said by mistake.

Welcome to the "club"!

There are hundreds of comments on these forums about going ff. Up until 2004 I shot nothing but full frame (film) on Canon's best (EOS1 and 1n).

I like todays digital and will probable never shoot film again. There is nothing wrong with crop cameras and I have enjoyed the rebel and the 20d.

I don't change cameras at the drop of a hat. The 5D has been on my mind for awhile.

Now after looking at your photos I'm more convinced than ever that I will buy something in ff (Canon). Since I shoot landscape and sports (rodeo). More than likely I will continue with the 20d and probable buy the 5d.

Denny

Denny G wrote in post #4022341
Now after looking at your photos I'm more convinced than ever that I will buy something in ff (Canon). Since I shoot landscape and sports (rodeo). More than likely I will continue with the 20d and probable buy the 5d.

Denny, for now, that's my approach. I like having the 30D as both a backup camera and as a grab-and-shoot wildlife camera -- the cropping is cropping out pixels, but I do get to frame telephoto shots with my 30D.

I'm sure that the more I work with my 5D the less I will look to my 30D, but that would likely mean, among other things, getting more monstrous lenses.

Anyway, get the 5D, and keep the 20D, and be creative!

Tony

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