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40D AI Servo BIF Photo Sequence - 8 shots in 3 seconds

 
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Sep 29, 2007 13:25 |  #1

Here's a sequence of 8 shots, taken within a 3 second timeframe with a bird coming towards the camera. These were shot in raw and converted to jpeg in Lightroom with no editing at all. I think all things considered the results are not too bad. I've had a few other results of similar quality and several others that were less successful but these show what can potentially be accomplished.

Kit was a 40D with 70-200 f/2.8 IS lens at 200mm, 800 ISO, f/2.8 and shutter between 1/640 and 1/1000. Focus was with AI Servo and centre AF point only.

I dare say a little sharpening and a tweak of levels would improve them somewhat but I wanted to show what the camera (and lens!) was capable of without fiddling with the results.

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Sep 29, 2007 13:37 |  #2

very good indeed i dont thing you could ask for much better,was this centre point or all point's.
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Sep 29, 2007 13:55 |  #3

Sorry, I should have mentioned these were with centre point only. I really don't trust the random 9 points to pick what I want in focus. I've updated the original post.




  
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Sep 29, 2007 14:00 as a reply to  @ tdodd's post |  #4

Excellent! The 40D is a performer for sure.


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Sep 29, 2007 14:07 |  #5

I only use centre anyhow,:)


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Sep 29, 2007 14:12 |  #6

well it sure works on centre as these shots show .
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Sep 29, 2007 14:14 |  #7

wow
that's all I have to say...
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Sep 29, 2007 14:38 |  #8

OP, how about taking the best one and PP it, and a crop lets see how good it really is :)


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Sep 29, 2007 14:39 |  #9

Just two words:

IM-PRESIONANTE

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Sep 29, 2007 15:00 |  #10

Zoiks! That's sweet!


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Sep 29, 2007 15:21 |  #11

Nice Job!! :)

Makes me happy I bought the 40D---:)
and that is the lens I am saving for....sweet

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Sep 29, 2007 15:28 |  #12

I've tried improving the last photo, which has the sharpest detail on the bird's head, and actually I'm struggling to improve on the vanilla file with the facilities available in Lightroom, since I can't isolate the bird and deal with the subject and background separately. Also, the subtle changes I can see in Lightroom become almost lost with the compression down to these tiddly 800*533 files. Anyway, here is the original, my best efforts at a tweak and a 100% crop from the tweaked file.

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Here's a 100% crop prepared in DPP instead of Lightroom. I think DPP deals much better than Lightroom with the noise in high ISO 40D files, especially when needing to sharpen. If you look at the "HH" lettering on the ring on the bird's foot and also the OOF transition between the tail feathers and the girl's red top you will see that the Lightroom version looks gritty and lumpy, whereas the DPP version is far smoother and more even. Yet the detail on the bird's head is probably better in DPP than Lightrrom. A clear victory for DPP here, I think. Adobe needs to work on their 40D raw converter.

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Sep 29, 2007 15:41 |  #13

very cool Tim!


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Sep 29, 2007 16:09 |  #14

well as for DDP and Lightroom, I only use CS3, and for me I would never use DPP or never do, I much rather use CS3, the raws in CS3 seem better to my eyes, but it is all personal preference

Great Shots anyhow, 40D in my views is still improving as people get used to them and learn it's differences over other bodies :)


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Sep 29, 2007 16:22 |  #15

Here's a 100% crop prepared in DPP instead of Lightroom. I think DPP deals much better than Lightroom with the noise in high ISO 40D files, especially when needing to sharpen. If you look at the "HH" lettering on the ring on the bird's foot and also the OOF transition between the tail feathers and the girl's red top you will see that the Lightroom version looks gritty and lumpy, whereas the DPP version is far smoother and more even. Yet the detail on the bird's head is probably better in DPP than Lightrrom. A clear victory for DPP here, I think. Adobe needs to work on their 40D raw converter.

i always thought raw files were the same in any converter, but the post effects could be different...is this not the case? (although i would say i'm a digital expert, raw is not my most indepth area) Is it that each program interprets each data bit differently and produces a different colour pixel?

Looking at the comparison i would say (if asked) that there is more going on there than a mere opening of a file...they both look like they have been sharpened but using difference noise reduction algorithms...in fact the top one looks like it's had a median filter run over it. To me, there's not only a clipping effect going on with the noise, there's a loss of resolution (in the analogue sense) of the finer details especially in the subtle white feather tones and their contrast edges against the black feathers. The head and beak seem to have finer detail in the lower image...finer, less obvious though...almost like the difference in radius in unsharp mask.

Lovely sequence by the way :D




  
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