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Jul 26, 2004 19:57 |  #16

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Jul 27, 2004 06:38 |  #17

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The microdrives are unreliable. They break if dropped. The pressure of aircraft ruin them too.

Most anything will break if dropped hard enough. Microdrives take a very hard fall before they'll break. If they're in the camera, the microdrive will be the least of your worries. And current microdrives rated
shock tolerance equates to a several hundred foot fall onto concrete. After a several hundred foot fall, I'd be concerned with whether I could find the card. Their operating pressure limits are about 10,000 ft. Airlines typically pressurize to 8000 ft. or below. The non-operational altitude limits are around 40,000 ft (which significantly exceeds my limits).

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The speed is important (and there isn't much of a premium for that speed). The camera buffers a limited number of pictures that could inhibit multiple consecutive shots.

Speed may be a factor in some cameras but I have not seen any performance difference on my D60 between microdrives, "regular" CF cards, and high-speed CF cards. Once the buffer's filled, it'll just keep trucking along at 1 fps essentially forever, until I run out of storage, or the battery dies.If you have any concrete examples to the contrary, please share them.


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Jul 27, 2004 06:57 |  #18

Jon wrote:
MTAtech wrote:
The microdrives are unreliable. They break if dropped. The pressure of aircraft ruin them too.

Most anything will break if dropped hard enough. Microdrives take a very hard fall before they'll break..

According to http://www.pcphotorevi​ew.com/memoryguidecrx.​aspx (external link)

MicroDrives have a reputation for being delicate and unreliable. They are more prone to failure since they have moving parts that can wear, or be damaged. But when handled normally and not abused, they are very reliable. Because of their moving parts, MicroDrives use more battery power than flash memory. And compared to new, high-speed CompactFlash cards, MicroDrive seek and write times are fairly slow. But if you need Gigs of cheap digital camera memory, MicroDrives are still the most bang-for-the-buck.


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Jul 27, 2004 06:58 |  #19

Murph7355 wrote:
scottbergerphoto wrote:
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Lexar 1GB 40X WA ( MarkII ) and Sandisk UltraII 1GB (10D)

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Scott

Scott

Does the MkII make use of the WA? I didn't think any of Canon's line up did.

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I don't know. They are just slightly slower then the Sandisk Extreme and Ultra II's and I got a really good price on them with no tax or shipping from www.computers4sure.com (external link) . They also came with free Image Rescue software that can be updated on Lexar's web site, www.efilm.com (external link) , to handle all brands of CF cards.
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Jul 27, 2004 07:10 |  #20

MTAtech wrote:
Jon wrote:
MTAtech wrote:
The microdrives are unreliable. They break if dropped. The pressure of aircraft ruin them too.

Most anything will break if dropped hard enough. Microdrives take a very hard fall before they'll break..

According to http://www.pcphotorevi​ew.com/memoryguidecrx.​aspx (external link)

MicroDrives have a reputation for being delicate and unreliable. They are more prone to failure since they have moving parts that can wear, or be damaged. But when handled normally and not abused, they are very reliable. Because of their moving parts, MicroDrives use more battery power than flash memory. And compared to new, high-speed CompactFlash cards, MicroDrive seek and write times are fairly slow. But if you need Gigs of cheap digital camera memory, MicroDrives are still the most bang-for-the-buck.

". . . have a reputation . . ." Any hard facts on current models? The same applies to write times - how do they perform in specific cameras relative to other media? When I'm taking pictures, I'm not concerned with theoretical laboratory results; I want to know what's going to happen with my camera.


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Jul 27, 2004 07:31 |  #21

I have a Sandisk UltraII 1gb, an UltraII 256mb, and a regular Sandisk 512mb card. I notice a significant difference in buffer clearing times with the UltraIIs as opposed to the regular card. If you think you're going to use the burst mode of the camera even once it's worth it in my opinion to get the faster card.

My horror story I use for proof is that I was shooting an ATV hill climb competition a while back and had already filled up my 256mb UltraII and was shooting with the regular 512mb (didn't have the 1gb yet). I shot a burst of shots of an ATV coming up the hill almost all the way to where I was. When the buffer filled up I let off and watched the run and the guy wrecked RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. I mean he wasn't more than 15 feet out to my side, perfectly lighting and everything....put the camera up and press the shutter....*nothing*. I look down and the buffer is STILL full. It was almost 5 seconds after the last shot and it still hadn't made room for another shot yet. I find that it usually takes about 2-3 seconds with the UltraIIs to get at least one shot out of the buffer. Had I had a faster card I could've at least had a chance of getting a decent shot.

Long story short, don't skimp on speed even though it may not affect you in your day to day shooting. You'll regret it if you don't have it when you need it!


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Jul 27, 2004 07:41 |  #22

That is an excellent example. My major point was, why argue about this? The cost difference between the regular Compact flash and the Ultra II is so minimal that it isn't worth discusing.


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Jul 27, 2004 07:43 |  #23

Jon wrote:
MTAtech wrote:
The microdrives are unreliable. They break if dropped. The pressure of aircraft ruin them too.

Most anything will break if dropped hard enough. Microdrives take a very hard fall before they'll break. If they're in the camera, the microdrive will be the least of your worries. And current microdrives rated
shock tolerance equates to a several hundred foot fall onto concrete. After a several hundred foot fall, I'd be concerned with whether I could find the card. Their operating pressure limits are about 10,000 ft. Airlines typically pressurize to 8000 ft. or below. The non-operational altitude limits are around 40,000 ft (which significantly exceeds my limits).

MTAtech wrote:
The speed is important (and there isn't much of a premium for that speed). The camera buffers a limited number of pictures that could inhibit multiple consecutive shots.

Speed may be a factor in some cameras but I have not seen any performance difference on my D60 between microdrives, "regular" CF cards, and high-speed CF cards. Once the buffer's filled, it'll just keep trucking along at 1 fps essentially forever, until I run out of storage, or the battery dies.If you have any concrete examples to the contrary, please share them.

Jon, I've used Microdrive for 2 years and I agree with you.

JoyceH, sometimes we have to put some eggs in a basket. I have three 1GB CF cards (including 1 microdrive) + 20GB portable backup device. When I finish one CF card, I will download it into the external backup. It is much cheaper to buy lots of cards.

But there are disadvantages in using microdrive for downloading images to my portable backup device -- it is slower and eats more battery.




  
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Jul 27, 2004 11:18 |  #24

scottbergerphoto wrote:
Murph7355 wrote:
scottbergerphoto wrote:
www.jr.com (external link)
www.computers4sure.com (external link)

Lexar 1GB 40X WA ( MarkII ) and Sandisk UltraII 1GB (10D)

Regards,
Scott

Scott

Does the MkII make use of the WA? I didn't think any of Canon's line up did.

Thanks
Andy

I don't know. They are just slightly slower then the Sandisk Extreme and Ultra II's and I got a really good price on them with no tax or shipping from www.computers4sure.com (external link) . They also came with free Image Rescue software that can be updated on Lexar's web site, www.efilm.com (external link) , to handle all brands of CF cards.
Regards,
Scott

Frankly, WA is "bunk"... even in a Nikon "WA" enabled camera..

Need proof?

Well,. Sandisk UltraIIs aren't WA,.. and yet they are faster in the Nikon D2H than the Lexar WA cards! So what good is the WA??

Just a marketing gimmick.


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