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Bring on the TS-E 24L :)

 
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Oct 01, 2007 16:48 |  #1

As promised in another thread, here are a few samples of what you can do with a TS-E 24.

Normal shot of little flowers, lying in the grass, camera plus lens slightly tilted forward as a combo, not the lens by itself, at F/4:

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Note that only a few flowers in the front middle area are within DoF.

Next a photo where the lens is tilted forwards, by about 5-6 degrees, and focused on the grass:
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If you look carefully, you'll notice that the grass close to the ground is sharp, literally from the front to the back, but nothing else is :).

This time slightly less tilt, and focused on some flower heads at middle height level:
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Here just a few flower heads at the middle level between grass and heighest flower heads are sharp, plus a few blades of grass, partly at least, whenever they stick up high enough.

Next, a close-up shot of some apple blossoms, without tilt, at F/3.5, IOW at maximum aperture:
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Just a few blossoms are reasonably sharp in focus,as you can see.

Same shot, but this time with a tilted lens:
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Note that the depth, while aperture is still at F/3.5, has increased incredibly, but what I like even more is that this picture seems to invite you to look further into it, towards the flowers at the back of the bunch, and then leads you back via the branch in focus, to the flowers at the front again.

BTW, this is a little bonsai apple tree :).

I really enjoy playing with the selective focus tiltshift lenses allow you :).

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Continuation from first post


Now, here is the setup I used for the next few pics, as shot with my S60, top view first:

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The green glassy block in the hot shoe is a two way spirit level, which I use a lot for landscape shoots etc. This is the 400D on top of a small Manfrotto tabletop tripod, in order to get close to the ground while still being able to maintain leveling. Putting the camera on the ground actually means you are forced to follow the terrain, and i tmeans flowers are not necessarily rising towards the top of the picture.

Another pic to show how close the camera really is to these flowers:
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Note that the middle of the first row of three flower grouplets, those closest to the lens, is about 30 cm away from the sensor, IOW, it is at closest focusing distance of the TS-E 24.

At F/11, with no tilt, this is the result:
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As you can see, the plane of DoF is centralized, and looks like a tranch going from left to right with the middle grouplet of flowers in focus. Also note how good the bokeh is for a 24 mm lens at F/11!

Now, let's tilt this beastie:
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Tilt is in an almost vertical plane, slightly forward, lens pointing towards the left, at about 6-7 degres, because the subjects are so close to the lens. Note that the flower on the left is in focus for a large part, and the DoF tranch now goes from front left to top right! Normally ,DoF at this distance, f-stop, FL and sensor size is about 6.5 cm. Here it is about 20-25 cm! Do notice how good bokeh really is, for such a subject and small aperture. I just love it :).

Finally one I like a lot myself: "Catching The Light"
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Bokeh even better, if you ask me :).

I do hope the pictures come out well; sitting here in a hotel with a fairly crummy, non-calibrated laptop screen :). Anyway, it was fun to do this.

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Oct 01, 2007 17:40 |  #3

Very nice demonstration of the tilt, Wim.


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Oct 01, 2007 20:35 |  #4

love the last one Wim, thanks!


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Oct 01, 2007 22:40 |  #5

awesome demo, wim. TS lenses continue to boggle my mind :D


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Oct 01, 2007 22:52 |  #6

I agree! ^^

very nice, Great shots, and nice comparisons so we al can see the differences!

I guess those TS-E lenses toss the DOF calculator out the window! ;)


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Oct 02, 2007 02:34 as a reply to  @ Livinthalife's post |  #7

Great photos and awesome presentation!

Thanks and keep on posting!

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P.S. Have you tried it with portraits or even better - extension tubes?




  
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Oct 02, 2007 12:39 |  #8

Tom W wrote in post #4045222 (external link)
Very nice demonstration of the tilt, Wim.

Thanks, Tom. It was a lot of fun to do this, and when I took those pics, I did it with POTN in mind, actually :).

jacobsen1 wrote in post #4046239 (external link)
love the last one Wim, thanks!

It's a pleasure, Ben. I do like that last one, too.

angryhampster wrote in post #4047167 (external link)
awesome demo, wim. TS lenses continue to boggle my mind

Thank you, Steve. They continue to do so with my mind too. Apart from their possibilities, the bokeh of these lenses with small apertures is quite awesome.

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I agree! ^^

very nice, Great shots, and nice comparisons so we al can see the differences!

I guess those TS-E lenses toss the DOF calculator out the window!

Thank you, Andy. I was hoping that the differences would be visible well enough, in the small format allowed.
The DoF calculator doesn't necessarily have to go out of the window, but you do need a slightly more complex one :).

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Great photos and awesome presentation!

Thanks and keep on posting!

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P.S. Have you tried it with portraits or even better - extension tubes?

Thank you kindly, Mirko!

Yes, I did use extension tubes with the TS-E 24 (as with both other ones). The 24 will take a 12 mm tube, which essentially means you can focus almost to the front lens. However, using tilt, rather than having < 1 mm of DoF, you may end up with 10 mm or more . I'll see if I can find an example, and post it later when I have a little time.

And I'll keep on posting. With comments like these, who could refuse to do so? :)

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Oct 02, 2007 12:52 |  #9

Very nice Wim, I can feel the lens envy building, aghhh, no... must ... resist... put the visa card down, now,..... aghhh that's better.


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Oct 02, 2007 13:14 |  #10

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aghhh that's better.

you ordered it didn't you? :lol:


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you ordered it didn't you? :lol:

ROFL!

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Oct 02, 2007 18:51 |  #12

I much appreciate this post. I just got this lens, after wanting it for a very long time. Haven't had much time to play though, but you are inspiring me.

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Oct 02, 2007 18:55 |  #13

excuse my ignorace, but how doe sthis lens work. in lames terms please.


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Oct 02, 2007 18:57 |  #14

check this out.
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Oct 02, 2007 18:59 as a reply to  @ MDJAK's post |  #15

Thanks Wim...I promised myself that I'd put a "hold" on new spending since I just converted a 10D for IR shooting, and you just had to start this thread. Dang...I must resist the temptation. Thank God that B&H is closed for a few more days...it'll give time for the spending urge to pass.


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