40D Replacement Arrived, Junk on Sensor Right Out of the Box!

M24 wrote in post #4071708
I don't obsess about insignificant dust, I'm was simply disappointed to see as much as I did right out of the box, that was my whole point.

Many of us here are telling you that this is insignificant dust and that many see a whole lot more dust on brand new cameras.

As I said before, wait until you get in the dusty conditions of an airshow and use a zoom lens. This will make your current sensor look pristine.

I use the Visible Dust Arctic Butterfly for most dust bunnies and occasionally their wet cleaning method when lubricant falls on the sensor. That happened quite a lot on the 30D. In either case, once you get used to it, sensor cleaning is really no big deal. I do plan on getting the Sensor Loupe soon as that will eliminate the picture taking/photoshop testings and will make the process go even faster.

tiktaalik wrote in post #4071761
Many of us here are telling you that this is insignificant dust and that many see a whole lot more dust on brand new cameras.

As I said before, wait until you get in the dusty conditions of an airshow and use a zoom lens. This will make your current sensor look pristine.

I use the Visible Dust Arctic Butterfly for most dust bunnies and occasionally their wet cleaning method when lubricant falls on the sensor. That happened quite a lot on the 30D. In either case, once you get used to it, sensor cleaning is really no big deal. I do plan on getting the Sensor Loupe soon as that will eliminate the picture taking/photoshop testings and will make the process go even faster.

Julie,

Thanks for your input. I have heard good things about the Arctic Butterfly, however, I was told by the Canon guru at the largest dealer in town that if it is lube on the sensor, the A.B. will make more of a mess, he suggested first rocket blowing, wet cleaning, and then A.B. as needed for quick cleaning.

Have you had and issues with lube being spread around by your A.B.?

By the way, the Scope Sensor is a very handy tool, but it only shows the big stuff. I'm glad I got it, but I think the acid-test will be stopping down and shooting blue sky or white paper.

Best,

Michael

M24 wrote in post #4068319
No offense taken. I see your point, I hope you see mine.

I really would love to have a 40D that is right in all respects. I've got some spare time next week and will make the trip.

I don't think that it is a small amount of dirt, however, given my previous experience with Canon DSLRs. I'm going to try to to be well over 6000 clicks before I make the trip. If that isn't enough to get the bulk of the excess lube and debris from the interals and start a good wear-in, then I don't know what is. It took me over a year to get that many clicks in my 350D, and as I have stated, that camera wasn't cleaned until it was considerably older than my 2nd 40D.

I suppose I had higher expectations from Canon. On this note, a full Pro Photog friend of mine picked up a 1D MKIII and its sensor was covered with debris out of the box. He doesn't care, because he has a team of people that do his post work to correct the problems.

I can see how on one side some folks might think I'm making a big deal out of nothing, but for the record, the largest camera shop in San Diego's Rep that I trust has stated that none of the 40Ds they have sold were as dirty as my two have been out of the box, at least not dirty enough to be an issue, though they charge $50 to clean a sensor, so I would say that it's possible that some customers are willing to look the other way. I can get to Irvine and back for much less than $50 in gas and I've got the time.

Honestly, at this point, I'm more concerned about having another jam-tastic ER99-ing body than the dirt on the sensor. One way or another the dirt will go away.

Once again, no offense taken, nothing like the puppet's sophmoric comic.

Best,

Michael

take a chill pill, dude.
if the new camera is bad as you say, why don't you send it back to the retailer for exchange?
if you bought mail order from mongoliia, maybe you can't get an exchange? in that case, learning to clean a sensor is better use of your time/money than driving to Irvine, where the Canon people may call the cops when you freak out on them in the lobby.

I'm sorry, not trying to be a jerk here, but this whole thing is just being a bit obsessive. The pictures you took of the sky look very clean to me. When I first got my 20D I was pretty worried about dust on the sensor. I found some and sent it into Canon to get it cleaned and calibrated. When I got it back I didn't bother checking to see if it had dust on it, I just took pictures.

Forward to two years and 8000 clicks later. (I guess I don't take as many pictures as most people on here) I took some landscape shots recently, very rare for me, and there was quiet a bit of dust in the sky. I fixed the pictures in post processing and thought, "well it has been over two years." So I took a shot of a white board and found 30+ dust spots on my sensor. Now that's DIRTY. What you just posted is CLEAN. So I did a wet cleaning, don't like doing that. Did another test shot and had two dust spots. Darn it! Cleaned it again. DARN IT! Two different dust spots! So I cleaned it a 3rd time. And guess what? Two different dust spots again! But that's a heck of a lot better than 30.

Moral of the story: You're ALWAYS going to have 1 to 5 small dust particals on your sensor, no matter how often you clean it. I tested my camera just yesterday and I have maybe 5 dust spots on it again, from changing lenses I'm sure.

You know, in the hundreds of keepers that I took in those two years, do you know how many I had to remove dust from? Maybe 10 or 20 pictures. With a sensor as dirty as mine was and only had that many pictures to clean out of hundreds, if not 1000s, or so keepers, I honestly think you're fretting over nothing.

Put the camera down, take a step back away from it, and breathe a little.

I walked into canon irvine and they blew the camera out for free.Took 3 minutes I suppose it matters more how tough the dust is to get off. That was just a plain ol walk in help me sure thanks have a great day.

What did they use to blow it out?

-js

M24 wrote in post #4071824
Have you had and issues with lube being spread around by your A.B.?

I do/did with the 30D. If goop was spread around then I wet cleaned the sensor and cleaned the brush.

M24 wrote in post #4068324
You and Darth should get a room.

Have a nice day!

"I'll end my redress to you by saying that your post was not that of a gentleman."

ROFLMAO!!!!!

M24
Just buy a sensor cleaning kit and learn how to do it yourself.
As others have said the time and money you waste going to Irvine you could have bought a few cleaning items.

it could be worse, you could have a sensor like Marks (Bandit1)
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=387116
looking at your pics Michael and compare to Marks, I say you don't have a problem.

The method I use to clean my Sensor on my 20D is in the order as follows.
Rocket blower
Dust-aid (tack adhesive pads)
Canon has a kit which is not officially for sale in the USA, same set-up as Dust aid.
Canons kit, Part number SCK-E1 (Do a search)
Kurt Fargo was selling some of these kits but they're $93 and I just checked his website and he doesn't sell them anymore.

Sensor Sweep II (Brush)
Speckgrabber (small cohesive silicone stick)
Sensor Swipe (Eclipse/E2 and pec pads) (Wet method, cheapest way)
Sensor Swap (wet method, expensive way)
sensorklear by lenspen (sensor pen)

If you have any questions call Kurt Fargo
http://www.fargo-ent.com/
http://www.cleaningdig​italcameras.com/
He has cleaning supplies pretty cheap


it is part of the joys of owning a DSLR. There are few ways to skin the cat.
you also have the latest and greatest DPP software doesn't that have a feature to dust map and then remove the dust from each picture in batch process.

either way get over it, life is too short if you don't want to deal with dust then sell your 40D and get a P&S
It is not that hard to clean, the first time you do it I guarantee you'll be sweating like your trying to diffuse a bomb.
Once you've done a few times you'll wonder what the fuss is about.

Dust bunnies are nothing PS takes 1 sec to take them off.Mine are worse on my XT his are nothing and f22 will cause diffraction so I never see them unless I use f16 . They are not a big deal.

Samdiver74 wrote in post #4072451
it is part of the joys of owning a DSLR. There are few ways to skin the cat.

Sire! Not funny. There are lots of cats (probably no dogs, though) who read POTN.

Remember the old-but-true net axiom:

"On the internet, nobody knows you're a cat."

-js

number six wrote in post #4073772
Sire! Not funny. There are lots of cats (probably no dogs, though) who read POTN.

Remember the old-but-true net axiom:

"On the internet, nobody knows you're a cat."

-js

Are you a PETA member

Mark Twain used it in A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court in 1889: “she was wise, subtle, and knew more than one way to skin a cat”, that is, more than one way to get what she wanted.

Number six

It is just a figure of speech, meaning there are a few ways to achieve the same goal.
and besides I own 2 of the little critters myself.
anyway back on topic.

Samdiver74 wrote in post #4074889
Number six

It is just a figure of speech, meaning there are a few ways to achieve the same goal.
and besides I own 2 of the little critters myself.
anyway back on topic.

My outrage was tongue-in-cheek, of course. I thought that'd be so obvious that no smiley was necessary.

-js

Samdiver74 wrote in post #4074889
and besides I own 2 of the little critters myself.
anyway back on topic.

I'll see your two and raise you three.

-js