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RULE OF THUMB HANDHELD SHUTTER SPEED?

 
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Oct 06, 2007 13:11 |  #1

As a rule of thumb, what is the lowest shutter speed one can use without image stabilization? Some people have better abilities than others so I would expect the speed to vary. That said, I am looking for what an advanced amateur should be using.

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How long is your lens? I usually observe the 1/focal length rule.



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Oct 06, 2007 13:19 |  #3

For 35mm cameras the rule of thumb was always 1/focal length for shutter speed, as Elizabeth says.

For crop cameras, like most of our DSLRs, it's 1/(fl * crop factor).

That is, if you're using a 200mm lens, 1/320 is the minimum.

BTW, it takes a while to learn how to take a shake-free picture at this figure...

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Oct 06, 2007 13:21 |  #4

I have not heard of that rule. It sounds very easy to follow!

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Oct 06, 2007 13:23 |  #5

The old rule of thumb has always been 1/focal length. With the advent of digital, and cropped bodies, it now seems to be 1/focal length x crop factor. So, for example, at 300mm the old rule would be 1/300 sec. With your XTi, the crop factor gives you the field of view of a 480mm lens, so 1/480 sec. These are rough guidelines only. The longer the lens, the more I'd err on the side of speed.




  
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Oct 06, 2007 15:21 |  #6

crn3371 wrote in post #4076285 (external link)
These are rough guidelines only. The longer the lens, the more I'd err on the side of speed.

Yeah. I can usually get away with even slower shutter speeds wth wide-angle focal lengths.




  
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Oct 06, 2007 15:24 |  #7

If you practice you can usually manage a bit slower than 1/length, at least in my experience. I can usually manage 1/125- 1/160th or so with a 70-200, I think most probably could with some work.


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Oct 06, 2007 18:10 |  #8

I won't use lower than 1000/sec with my 300mm Nikkor...


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Oct 06, 2007 22:12 |  #9

number six wrote in post #4076271 (external link)
For 35mm cameras the rule of thumb was always 1/focal length for shutter speed, as Elizabeth says.

For crop cameras, like most of our DSLRs, it's 1/(fl * crop factor).

That is, if you're using a 200mm lens, 1/320 is the minimum.

BTW, it takes a while to learn how to take a shake-free picture at this figure...

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And that is the BARE MINIMUM. You really should plan on 2-3X faster to gain good sharpness.

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Oct 07, 2007 04:56 |  #10

I can hand hold 300mm at f5.6 taking a shot of a slow moving car with IS at 1/60th at ISO100.


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Oct 07, 2007 05:46 |  #11

NSWESP wrote in post #4079810 (external link)
I can hand hold 300mm at f5.6 taking a shot of a slow moving car with IS at 1/60th at ISO100.

zucchini wrote in post #4076240 (external link)
As a rule of thumb, what is the lowest shutter speed one can use without image stabilization?

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Oct 07, 2007 05:55 |  #12

I saw that, I was simply stating what IS can acheive.


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Oct 07, 2007 10:28 |  #13

Good thread I did not realise that you had to multiply by the 1.6 cropfactor
I have found though that a speed of 160/ 200 will consistently give sharp shots with a 105 macro. In good conditions holding the camera steady and using burst I can get good shots at 60.
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Oct 07, 2007 10:36 as a reply to  @ lcpete's post |  #14

Without IS I'd say 1/160th at 400mm.

With IS on I'm getting keepers with 1/30th also, but ratio is rather low of course. Maybe 5 out of 30.


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Oct 07, 2007 10:51 |  #15

I don't understand why you would need to increase the shutter speed for a crop camera. The physical focal length of the lens is the same if you use a full frame or a smaller sensor. The difference is that the sensor is smaller and thus only capturing a smaller portion of the same area that a full frame would.

It doesn't change the physics of motion/focal length at play, so the camera/lens motion would be the same on a full frame and a cropped camera. So the same 1//focal length should apply. The actual physical focal length hasn't changed at all between FF and crop.

Am I missing something?


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