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Oct 07, 2007 10:00 |  #1

Hi...got a lil one for you guys....

Lets say youre taking pictures inside a room lit with yellow bulb lights.....light levels not strong enough to get decent shutter speeds....so i decide to use flash for fill, not overpowering the ambient for a natural look....

now my question would be for the white balance, personally i would like to keep the yellow tinge coz it shows how the scene was and makes the whole picture warm (its a baptism) so it sort of fits the theme.

now, if i do custom white balance by shooting a white paper to serve as the custom WB shot, wouldnt my pics come out blue due to the fact that im shooting with a flash (same reasoning if i put my AWB to bulb)....if i put it in flash it will render the natural lighting a different color too right?

so how do you come up with a good WB for this scene? or am i just confusing myself....never really tried playing around inside the room coz it was hectic and all...


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Oct 07, 2007 10:18 |  #2

Shoot in RAW and play with the slider in post processing until it looks right ;)


Or combine two RAW images via layers in photoshop..each wtih a different WB.


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Oct 07, 2007 11:18 |  #3

angryhampster wrote in post #4080804 (external link)
Shoot in RAW and play with the slider in post processing until it looks right ;)


Or combine two RAW images via layers in photoshop..each wtih a different WB.

yep i shoot in raw...i was just thinking what if i had gone JPEG it would have been hell fixing the WB.


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Oct 07, 2007 11:42 |  #4

A CTO gel on the flash will help it more closely match the ambient color temp.
Then when you adjust color temp with your RAW converter, things will look better.

But unless it's a big room (like a church sanctuary), I generally bounce the flash and set the shutter speed at 1/250 to obliterate the ambient. You can get natural looking light this way, and a better keeper ratio since you're not shooting at marginal shutter speeds.


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Oct 07, 2007 11:52 |  #5

ccp900 wrote in post #4080730 (external link)
Hi...got a lil one for you guys....

light levels not strong enough to get decent shutter speeds....so i decide to use flash for fill, not overpowering the ambient for a natural look....

............... i would like to keep the yellow tinge

I think I would WB for the flash, set flash to a low output, use a slow shutter speed.
The flash will give a basic exposure the slow shutter speed will capture the ambient light and retain the colour of the yellow light bulbs.




  
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Oct 07, 2007 11:55 |  #6

I would put a CTO filter on the flash, use Av on the camera and meter for ambient light. The oragne filter will give the correct WB to the ambient.

edit: dang, I am so slow


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Oct 07, 2007 23:14 |  #7

whoa...thanks! i totally forgot about CTO gels, mainly because i refuse to carry them LOL.

Ill try that technique about bouncing the flash....but the problem is that i think my 580EX is not powerful enough. i tried shooting at 1/125 at f4 with just the flash and i had tons of real dark spaces in the picture.


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Oct 07, 2007 23:26 |  #8

ccp900 wrote in post #4084896 (external link)
Ill try that technique about bouncing the flash....but the problem is that i think my 580EX is not powerful enough. i tried shooting at 1/125 at f4 with just the flash and i had tons of real dark spaces in the picture.

Try ISO 400.


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Oct 08, 2007 03:05 |  #9

funny you said that i was at iso 400..didnt wanna push it anymore than that, so i just went back to slowing down my shutter speed.


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