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Ebay 1D's for cheap $$$?

 
John ­ Sargent
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Jul 29, 2002 13:03 |  #31

Did anybody call this guy? It says his phone number is +1.2768735864 . I got emails from a guy claiming he is a US soldier in England with cameras for cheap $$$ but he also seems to be a fraud. They make it bad for everyone who does legitimate business on the web


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Jul 29, 2002 13:05 |  #32

MrEWorm, have to agree with ya. I am gunshy about buying anything on ebay over 250 bucks. I am trying to find a good deal on a D-30 but am just too nervous about it. Sorry to say that JR taught me a good lesson. I now use everything in my dispose to sniff these people out.

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Jul 29, 2002 13:14 |  #33

Did anybody call this guy? It says his phone number is +1.2768735864 . I got emails from a guy claiming he is a US soldier in England with cameras for cheap $$$ but he also seems to be a fraud. They make it bad for everyone who does legitimate business on the web


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Jul 29, 2002 17:11 |  #34

I called and got no answer, but I will keep trying. I hope I save anyone else who may be reading this forum by learning from my mistake, or dumbass syndrome. Like I said I will give it a few more day's. It said allow 10 days, so I will even though I know I will never see the camera or my money.




  
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Jul 29, 2002 20:28 |  #35

I do a ton of business on Ebay all the time, primarily as a seller but also as a buyer.

There's some things i've learned directly and indirectly from my experiences there. This list is by no means complete, but covers most of my experiences. To date i've been lucky to not lose a single dime as a buyer or a seller.

1. "Private Auctions" for anything but pornographic material means the seller has something to hide. More than likely, he wants to keep people from warning the bidders on his auction that he is a fraud.

2. Using Western Union, Cashiers Check or Money Orders as the only forms of payment is another trademark, ESPECIALLY when combined with #1 above. Not only does he want to keep his bidders from being warned, he also wants a form of payment that allows him to take your money and deliver nothing in return with little or no chance of being caught. These methods of payment offer little in the way of traceability.

Also, WESTERN UNION HAS NO **ENFORCEABLE** POLICY ON WHO CAN PICK UP A PAYMENT. If you give them a name to use to "check to see if a payment is there" but not give them the passcode, they can easily make a fake ID that allows them to pick it up WITHOUT the passcode. NEVER USE WESTERN UNION! EVER!

3. If a high-feedback seller has been inactive for a long time then suddenly starts selling these high ticket items using one (or both) of the scenarios above, then that person has either hacked the account somehow, or PURCHASED the account at another auction. Yes, it IS possible to sell your Ebay identity after you've racked up 200+ positive feedback.

4. If a high-feedback seller has been recently active (i.e. has feedback left within the past 60 to 90 days) and all of a sudden wants **only** Western Union/Money Order/Certified Check when he HAS taken Ebay Payments/Billpoint/Pay​pal in the past, this is another indication that his account has been purchased or otherwise acquired.

5. Be careful with COD's. If a seller agrees to ship you something COD, do NOT pay ANY money up front. Doing so could mean you just purchased a VERY expensive brick.

6. Whenever possible, USE A MAJOR CREDIT CARD. They almost always reverse charges in cases of Fraud like this. DO NOT USE A DEBIT CARD WITH A VISA/MC LOGO THAT IS LINKED TO YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT UNLESS YOU KNOW FOR SURE YOUR BANK WILL DISPUTE THE CHARGE!!! Find out ahead of time what their policy is.




  
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Aug 01, 2002 00:03 |  #36

Can I put my Aussie two cents in. Just remember the old adage "When it sounds too good to be true, it is". On eBay Australia, a guy from an indeterminate country offered to sell me a D60 for $2,200 Australian (the going rate is $5,100 Australian). When I questioned him by email, he said he was a student from Bulgaria living in Australia although he wasn't in Australia at that time. As he had no idea how to write "A$2,200" - he put 2,200 $ au was a great indication that he had never lived here. As stated before, eBay Australia will remove "scammers" and also "anti scammers" when they hit legitimate sellers. I know this is "stable doors and horses" but it may help others who might be tempted by great deals. Conversely, I have sold two digital cameras on eBay, one to a guy in Melbourne and another to a guy 5 kms away. The first was a matter of trust. He received the camera which I shipped to him and then transferred money into my account (risky I know) and the second was a lot easier - cash up front. I knew where the first bidder worked and all his home address details so I did not feel it a problem. But I would never, ever buy from anyone overseas. Two words sums this up "caveat emptor".

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Aug 01, 2002 09:43 |  #37

Nice photos. Now, I am just curious is Sheila your real name or is it a Mick Dundee/Paul Hogan 'handle'. I remeber in the movie he called all the girls he did not know Sheila. Kinda funny.. Anyway, I have contacted the our sheriff's department and they are contacting the local police in Anchorage, Alaska. Though the guy who scammed me said he was from Poland, he actually lives in the states. So hopefully they will charge him. Anything over $400 fraud in the US is grand theft and is a felony. I don't expect anything getting to me, but I hope they pound this guy.

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Aug 01, 2002 12:46 |  #38

Hi JR-

I wish you the best of luck, but I encourage you to not put too much weight in the WhoIs information. When you register a domain name, you can put whatever you want there. It's not verified.

In today's times, you can even just renew online by email. No longer do you have to wait for InterNIC invoices in the mail and things like that.

Again, I'm sorry for the trouble you had. Hopefully everything comes together regarding stopping this guy from doing this again....

Jasper




  
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Aug 01, 2002 12:50 |  #39

Jasper-
I have a close friend who went above and way beyound what WhoIs offered as far as information. To put it in laymen terms, what he did for me was illegal and that is how I got the clutch information I was after. from there I placed in the hands of the authorities.
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Aug 01, 2002 13:36 |  #40

JR92, I would thought eBay's safe harbor would have protected you in this situation. Also I notice the seller (klugatl) is still there although one of his seller comments are negatives. He has good feedback as a buyer. Anyway, he hasn't been banned.

Anyway, eBay's customer service has always been excellent and I've used it both as a buyer and seller. I think you do need to wait for some period of time and go through a series of actions but maybe all is not lost.

Good luck to you.

Gorham.




  
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Aug 01, 2002 18:06 |  #41

JR92 wrote:
Nice photos. Now, I am just curious is Sheila your real name or is it a Mick Dundee/Paul Hogan 'handle'. I remeber in the movie he called all the girls he did not know Sheila. Kinda funny.. Anyway, I have contacted the our sheriff's department and they are contacting the local police in Anchorage, Alaska. Though the guy who scammed me said he was from Poland, he actually lives in the states. So hopefully they will charge him. Anything over $400 fraud in the US is grand theft and is a felony. I don't expect anything getting to me, but I hope they pound this guy.

JR92
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Yes, my real name is Sheila! I was born in England and I have rarely come across a female born here in Oz with the name! Fortunately, "sheila" is rarely used (except by Paul Hogan) now. Good luck with getting your money back but I guess on the positive side, reading all these posts, it will maybe make others think twice.

Cheers
Sheila


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Aug 01, 2002 18:09 |  #42

MrEWorm wrote:
I see several 1D's listed on Ebay from Australia. The price in US $$$ is very low. Is this a ripoff? If a deal looks too good to be true is it?

I've been going the rounds at Camera stores just to see what a D60 looks like, and feel it in my cold clammy hands. I can't find one anywhere. The local Wold does have a 1D, feels awesome, but at $5500 I find it is out of my universe.

A later two cents worth. Always check the "sellers details" as you may find that the location is not Australia at all. One guy selling D60s actually lives in American Samoa and appears to have a constant supply of D60.

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Aug 02, 2002 10:37 |  #43

Sounds scary......

I never bought in ebay - but several times was tempted to do so.....

But how can I identify a scammer?

I do not want to get sucked.......




  
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Aug 02, 2002 10:38 |  #44

Citrus..

All you need to know is here...

http://members.ebay.co​m/aboutme/icatheeph (external link)




  
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Aug 02, 2002 10:57 |  #45

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I never bought in ebay - but several times was tempted to do so.....
But how can I identify a scammer?
I do not want to get sucked.......
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There are several ways to do well on eBay.

First, read all the buyers' guides and information pages on eBay. They're excellent and the more knowledgeable you are, the more comfortable and successful your experiences will be.

When you're ready, start out small, just to get the feel of how it's done. Always check feedback and especially read the neutral and negative comments. If you're considering a more expensive item, you can ask if they'd accept escrow. Either buyer or seller can pay the fees or they can be split; it might be worth it for the peace of mind. Also, always, *always* pay by credit card, either through PayPal or one of the other payment services.

I will only buy more expensive electronic items from "real" dealers who sell on eBay. B&H sells there as do Ritz, Henry's (in Canada) and several others. They can issue legitimate warrantees and stand behind their products well and reliably.

The best single piece of advice I can give is COMMUNICATE. Some people are very quick to leave feedback without ever trying to work through problems. Most sellers are honest and try to give good service. A few aren't and that's why the safeguards are there.

Stay on top of the transaction; keep your emails and records. If you ever do have to make a complaint, you'll have full documentation. As you will read in the eBay information pages, there are several steps to conflict resolution. I've only had to use the whole battery of them once as a buyer and twice as a seller. Most times, the intermediate steps work to resolve the issue.

So. Try it out. Buy a Beanie Baby or something and see how it goes.

Good luck.

Gorham.




  
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