DSLR vs. PS

Dragos Jianu wrote in post #4138350
A P&S is a marketing gimmick. A cheap piece of crap made for the masses - ppl that don't know the first thing about photography , people that can be fool with numbers easily, people who don't know what good quality means in terms of photo gear. They are promoted thru aggressive advertising and extremely shady specifications that look good or work only on paper.

The elitism runs thick with this, at least in that it appears to condescend to humans who "don't know the first thing about photography." And I'm saying this as someone who will never use a P&S if possible. A decent P&S is not a gimmick, if it fulfills the need of the user. Moreover, there are economic factors involved, whereby a DSLR, even entry level, may be cost prohibitive for some people who would otherwise like a DSLR...

Frankly, I will never buy online music as long as it is in compressed form, so I empathize with your retentiveness. Yet, I would hardly expect the lowly proletariat to rise up and shout," Give me 24-bit, 96 KHz or die!" It's just not a priority for everyone.

In any event, interesting comparison…

RPCrowe wrote in post #4137444
If you use the camera mostly for pics of the kiddies to email to Grandma and seldom if ever print anything larger than Walmart 4x6 prints AND if you seldom if ever post process your images - you will do just fine with a point and shoot.

That's not far off what I use my DSLR's for, and there's no way's I'd consider doing it with a P&S.

I'm hobbyist beginner, but I know enough to tell my shots taken with my DSLR's far exceed the capabilities of any P&S on the market.

So far (I think) noone has mentioned the potential advantage of a large DOF with a P&S. If you want a large DOF and forgot (or just couldn't bear bringing) the tripod, the SLR might not get the shot you want as the P&S would have. Of course better high ISO performance in the SLR will partly help but not all the way I think. If ISO 400 is enough to get a hand holdable shot with the P&S, the same DOF would probably require ISO 6400 or so to stop down enough with the SLR.

Dragos Jianu wrote in post #4138350
A P&S is a marketing gimmick. A cheap piece of crap made for the masses - ppl that don't know the first thing about photography , people that can be fool with numbers easily, people who don't know what good quality means in terms of photo gear. They are promoted thru aggressive advertising and extremely shady specifications that look good or work only on paper.

It's amazing how cheap a DSLR system is compared to a P&S if you consider the HUGE difference in quality, performance, durability. There really is no comparison.

Any camera is crap if the one who owns it doesn't take the time to build on its pros and minimize its cons. A compact camera in the right hands can take photos that can rival that of a dSLR's. To utterly dismiss it as crap is extremely ignorant; no wonder some people perceive some 'serious' photographers (dude with a dSLR) to have a certain air about them when they shoot, and I'm not talking about clean air here.

Check out this fellow's gallery, all of the photos were taken with a compact camera. Guess who he is. https://photography-on-the.net/gallery/list.p​hp?exhibition=2

seems to me after I got my DSLR...I have not picked my PS up again...*-)

A few weeks ago I used a P&S - I needed a picture of my DSLR.



-js

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A P&S is a marketing gimmick. A cheap piece of crap made for the masses - ppl that don't know the first thing about photography , people that can be fool with numbers easily, people who don't know what good quality means in terms of photo gear. They are promoted thru aggressive advertising and extremely shady specifications that look good or work only on paper.
It's amazing how cheap a DSLR system is compared to a P&S if you consider the HUGE difference in quality, performance, durability. There really is no comparison.
This is really funny from a 20D owner
I think you can make this statement when you own a 1Ds Mk III and some more better glass, otherwise better be silent and do not bash newbies with really serious questions.
BTW, I started with a 20D but that should not matter....

Bamamike wrote in post #4143261
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A P&S is a marketing gimmick. A cheap piece of crap made for the masses - ppl that don't know the first thing about photography , people that can be fool with numbers easily, people who don't know what good quality means in terms of photo gear. They are promoted thru aggressive advertising and extremely shady specifications that look good or work only on paper.
It's amazing how cheap a DSLR system is compared to a P&S if you consider the HUGE difference in quality, performance, durability. There really is no comparison.
This is really funny from a 20D owner
I think you can make this statement when you own a 1Ds Mk III and some more better glass, otherwise better be silent and do not bash newbies with really serious questions.
BTW, I started with a 20D but that should not matter....

Let me guess. It is dark where you are at, right?

number six wrote in post #4143109
A few weeks ago I used a P&S - I needed a picture of my DSLR.



-js

I actually going to use my dSLR to take picture of the P&S ...

Bamamike wrote in post #4143261
Quote:
A P&S is a marketing gimmick. A cheap piece of crap made for the masses - ppl that don't know the first thing about photography , people that can be fool with numbers easily, people who don't know what good quality means in terms of photo gear. They are promoted thru aggressive advertising and extremely shady specifications that look good or work only on paper.
It's amazing how cheap a DSLR system is compared to a P&S if you consider the HUGE difference in quality, performance, durability. There really is no comparison.
This is really funny from a 20D owner
I think you can make this statement when you own a 1Ds Mk III and some more better glass, otherwise better be silent and do not bash newbies with really serious questions.
BTW, I started with a 20D but that should not matter....

You can have thegreatest equipment available, but it means nothing if the person behind the camera shoots like cap!!! Me included of cause.

Hey P&S guys, go use your camera and capture a 900 hp trophy truck moving at over 100 mph through the air at 1/40sec and get back to me about not needing a DSLR.

For me the main difference which visible instantly - it's resolution. And I am not talking about number of pixels - it's about sensor size! Pictures look just different.
And second - depth of field, with a right lens

If for a person all these words means nothing, he should not upgrade from PS camera till he feels what's it all about. Sometimes, he does not need it, just keep your good PS Camera and you will be totally OK with that!

ryant35 wrote in post #4153382
Hey P&S guys, go use your camera and capture a 900 hp trophy truck moving at over 100 mph through the air at 1/40sec and get back to me about not needing a DSLR.

Suppose a person doesn't want to shoot a truck at 100 mph. Suppose a person wants a camera that will fit in his shirt pocket. Sure, my 30D will outshoot my SD800 IS. So what? I also found that getting the 30D and a comparable zoom in my pocket to be impossible. You use the right camera for the purpose intended. Why is there a problem with that?

I have a little Canon P&S that someone gave me. I have the option all the time to pocket that camera or carry around my 20D. Needless to say one of my friends has had the camera since April.