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Is there such a thing as a DSLR with ISO priority?

 
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Oct 18, 2007 15:07 |  #1

I hate having to go into a menu to set ISO.




  
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Oct 18, 2007 15:16 |  #2

ISO priority? If that's the same sort of thing as aperture priority, as an example, it gets set and other exposure values are selected by the camera for correct exposure.

We already have that.

You don't say what camera you're using, but even my ancient 300D has ISO settings available via a button and wheel on the camera, no menus involved.

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Oct 18, 2007 15:21 as a reply to  @ number six's post |  #3

Nikon cameras have it and it supposedly works well. The 40D has a version of it but it lacks full functionality.


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Oct 18, 2007 15:25 |  #4

Isn't P mode essentially iso priority?

edit: OH, right, you want an iso priority so you can go around shooting by adjusting the iso on the wheel. But why? what kind of shooting do you do that facilitates shooting while adjusting only the iso?




  
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Oct 18, 2007 15:28 as a reply to  @ mrkgoo's post |  #5

ISO priority isn't just adjusting the ISO. In ISO priority the ISO is actuall NOT the priority. It is like M mode with ISO being chosen by the camera rather than the user.


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Oct 18, 2007 15:40 |  #6

It appears that some folks are a bit confused about what ISO priority is...you manually set the shutter speed and the aperture...and the camera then adjusts the ISO setting to give you the proper exposure.

Much like in Aperture priority or Av....you manually set the ISO and aperture...and the camera adjusts the shutter speed to give you the proper exposure.

Or like Shutter priority or Tv....you manually set the ISO and shutter speed and the camera adjusts the aperture to give you the proper exposure.

Noink offers ISO priority....Canon has yet to fully implement it.


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It appears that some folks are a bit confused about what ISO priority is...you manually set the shutter speed and the aperture...and the camera then adjusts the ISO setting to give you the proper exposure.

Where'd you find that defined? Or is that just someone's idea of "I'll make up my own term" to suit what I want? What you appear to be talking about would be along the lines of Aperture/Shutter Priority. Let the operator set the Aperture and Shutter, and let the camera choose the ISO. Program would be ISO priority (setting ISO was more important than setting anything else).

And yes, the 1Dmk3 has it, but it takes a few steps to get it. First, put the camera in Manual mode and choose the Aperture/Shutter values you want. Second, enable the custom function for ISO Safety Shift. Done.


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Oct 18, 2007 15:53 |  #8

pjtemplin wrote in post #4149053 (external link)
Where'd you find that defined? Or is that just someone's idea of "I'll make up my own term" to suit what I want? What you appear to be talking about would be along the lines of Aperture/Shutter Priority. Let the operator set the Aperture and Shutter, and let the camera choose the ISO. Program would be ISO priority (setting ISO was more important than setting anything else).

And yes, the 1Dmk3 has it, but it takes a few steps to get it. First, put the camera in Manual mode and choose the Aperture/Shutter values you want. Second, enable the custom function for ISO Safety Shift. Done.

Nikon has had the term for quite some time as Dan mentioned.

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Oct 18, 2007 15:56 |  #9

Woolburr wrote in post #4148989 (external link)
It appears that some folks are a bit confused about what ISO priority is...you manually set the shutter speed and the aperture...and the camera then adjusts the ISO setting to give you the proper exposure.

Much like in Aperture priority or Av....you manually set the ISO and aperture...and the camera adjusts the shutter speed to give you the proper exposure.

Read that again, it doesn't make sense! :lol:

If Nikon is calling Auto ISO AE "ISO Priority" it makes absolutely no sense at all :lol: It's totally counter intuitive.

ISO Priority would be as previously suggested, what we already have. If Aperture priority means we set the Aperture manually, then the camera adjust shutter to get a program exposure, then we already have ISO priority as we manually adjust ISO all the time, and have the option of letting the camera set shutter or aperture to suit program AE.

What we don't have, (though the Mk III is heading in the right direction) and what I suspect the OP is asking for, is Auto ISO to be incorporated into the AE system as one of three function as opposed to the two we use now (AV and TV)

ie: we set AV AND TV and the camera auto adjusts ISO to give us an AE exposure.

With Highlight tone priority and ISO Speed safety shift, the Mark III is almost to this point .. but it's simply not shown up as a Program AE option yet on Canon Cameras.

There is no real reason for this feature not to be an option now, as the legacy that prevented it of course was film, ISO could not be adjusted by the Camera to suit a shooting situation, as it could not swap film.

It will come to fruition soon, and in fact may already be considered in place on the Mark III even if it is not as seemless a setting as one might desire.


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Oct 18, 2007 16:07 |  #10

Woolburr wrote in post #4148989 (external link)
It appears that some folks are a bit confused about what ISO priority is...you manually set the shutter speed and the aperture...and the camera then adjusts the ISO setting to give you the proper exposure.

Much like in Aperture priority or Av....you manually set the ISO and aperture...and the camera adjusts the shutter speed to give you the proper exposure.


Some folks (me) are confused by your reasoning. You seem to be defining ISO priority so it's exactly opposite to the standard definitions of aperture or shutter priority.

With aperture priority, you set the aperture and it does not change. Same for shutter priority.

Now go back and read my previous post. We already have ISO priority as the camera's only mode: set it and it does not change.

Am I still confused?

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man, ISO was the first and easiest thing for me to figure out on my DSLR... typically wouldnt a particular ISO setting will work for a given setting, you know like say a portrait or maybe a landscape, ok then when you are done with one thing you pack up and move on to something else, unless you are walking in and out of a building or something like that... if you have to reset your ISO twice in a shoot, i guess that doesnt seem so bad - its not like you have to reset every shot right?


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Oct 18, 2007 16:33 |  #12

M.Wheeler wrote in post #4148785 (external link)
I hate having to go into a menu to set ISO.

Buy a 40D then and you don't have to go into a menu, just press one button and spin the dial!


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Oct 18, 2007 16:46 |  #13

number six wrote in post #4149166 (external link)
Some folks (me) are confused by your reasoning. You seem to be defining ISO priority so it's exactly opposite to the standard definitions of aperture or shutter priority.

With aperture priority, you set the aperture and it does not change. Same for shutter priority.

Now go back and read my previous post. We already have ISO priority as the camera's only mode: set it and it does not change.

Am I still confused?

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At any rate, the 40D offers auto iso.




  
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Oct 18, 2007 16:57 |  #14

Hmm, I personally find it surprising most people didn't get what the OP meant. He's talking about 'Auto-ISO'.. or whatever the heck you wanna call it. Basically like what Dan said.

What some of you aren't comprehending is that you're taking the name too literally. Yes, intuitively 'ISO priority' doesn't just necessarily imply what it does on those Nikon cameras (Auto-ISO shifting), but that's just the name. Although I have to say, the first time I heard the term I knew immediately what they were going on about.. maybe I've just been yearning for it's full implementation on Canon cameras for too long. :lol:

number six wrote in post #4148829 (external link)
You don't say what camera you're using, but even my ancient 300D has ISO settings available via a button and wheel on the camera, no menus involved.

That's a menu!
In other words, I have to press a button to access an (ISO) menu first, before adjusting the ISO.


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Oct 18, 2007 17:23 as a reply to  @ Collin85's post |  #15

Its not a Canon but the Pentax K10D offers ISO priority [along with other 'odd' modes]. Work just like Av or Tv mode, where you select the iso with the dial, camera selects aperture and shutterspeed.

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