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Oct 18, 2007 17:54 |  #1

Probably a stupid question but I'll ask anyway, I have a Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II USM on the way. This is the 1st lens in a long while that I have without Image Stabilization what would be a lowest Shutter Speed I could get away with handheld?

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Oct 18, 2007 18:04 |  #2

Well, it really depends on what your shooting, but for a stationary object ALWAYS go no lower than the focal length you are using. Don't be afraid to go up in ISO or down a notch in EC, since these are all fixable if you allow yourself to shoot in RAW, but blur can't really be corrected I always go for getting the shot, and if that means a grainier image, so be it!

if your shooting at the widest angel of 16mm then you would want no lower than 1/16th of a second.


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Oct 18, 2007 18:07 |  #3

The 1/shutter speed holds true for most people - if you want to get a feel for it with your existing lenses just turn IS off and see how that feels ;)


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Oct 18, 2007 18:08 |  #4

1/FL is true for FF dSLR and 135 format film camera. The formula needs to be modified to 1(FL*1.6) for APS-C cameras.


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Oct 18, 2007 18:19 |  #5

Wilt wrote in post #4149825 (external link)
1/FL is true for FF dSLR and 135 format film camera. The formula needs to be modified to 1(FL*1.6) for APS-C cameras.

I appreciate that Wilt, I was unaware of that, WOW, I thought the 1/FL applied for ALL cameras, no wonder I'd been getting blurry pictures on some of my portraits at 1/40 and 1/50 using my 50mm f/1.8

So, that means I need to be shooting at no less than 1/80 from now on. Cool, another great thing I learned on these awesome boards!


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Oct 18, 2007 18:21 |  #6

heh, yeah abuse that ISO on your MK3, but sure you may miss the IS on occasions :(, but then again once upon a time no such thing as IS, and people managed with out it then,


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Oct 18, 2007 18:22 |  #7

In truth, the 1/FL rule was invented for medium format cameras, but a lot of people were asleep at the switch with 35mm and let the rule go unmodified! Fortunately there was some safety margin built into the rule for medium format, and they ended up using up that safety margin for 'the miniature format' (35mm). They woke up again finally, with APS-C, and changed the rule to 1/(FL*1.6).


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Oct 18, 2007 18:23 |  #8

Wilt wrote in post #4149825 (external link)
1/FL is true for FF dSLR and 135 format film camera. The formula needs to be modified to 1(FL*1.6) for APS-C cameras.

Would that be 1*3 for a 1.3 Crop?


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Oct 18, 2007 18:25 |  #9

Diminished29 wrote in post #4149900 (external link)
I appreciate that Wilt, I was unaware of that, WOW, I thought the 1/FL applied for ALL cameras, no wonder I'd been getting blurry pictures on some of my portraits at 1/40 and 1/50 using my 50mm f/1.8

So, that means I need to be shooting at no less than 1/80 from now on. Cool, another great thing I learned on these awesome boards!

Just remember, the 1/FL*1.6 is just a guideline. Lots of people are able to shoot with slower shutter speeds than that through the use of proper technique (good stance and grip, breath control, and a controlled shutter release). But, it's a good rule of thumb for most people.

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Oct 18, 2007 18:28 |  #10

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Would that be 1*3 for a 1.3 Crop?

Yep!


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Oct 18, 2007 18:35 |  #11

Thanks guys, that going to be 1/(FL*1.3) for my MKIII which = 16 mm @ 1/20th and 35 mm @ 1/50th . Didn't know this, shows how much I know about shooting slow and short;)

I actually made a boo boo, I thought the the 16-36mm f/2.8 II had IS when I pressed the button. It was a toss-up between the 16-35 and 24-70 went for the 16-35 because I thought it had IS.:oops::oops:

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Oct 18, 2007 18:38 |  #12

well, the 24-70 doesn't have IS either. The 24-105 does.
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Oct 18, 2007 18:40 |  #13

NickR wrote in post #4149735 (external link)
Probably a stupid question but I'll ask anyway, I have a Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II USM on the way. This is the 1st lens in a long while that I have without Image Stabilization what would be a lowest Shutter Speed I could get away with handheld?

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I had good results with as low as ~1/10s at 16mm on FF. I doubt you will miss IS on a lens this wide.


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Oct 18, 2007 18:44 |  #14

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well, the 24-70 doesn't have IS either. The 24-105 does.
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Mark, Yeh I know, the 24-105 was an option I was looking at as well. Anyway 1/20th is slower that I thought I could get away with this lens.

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Oct 18, 2007 18:46 |  #15

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I had good results with as low as ~1/10s at 16mm on FF. I doubt you will miss IS on a lens this wide.

You would if you wanted to shoot at 1/6

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