-Official- 1D MK III AF Thread. Firmware? Hardware Fix Is IN!!!

sam0329 wrote in post #4154144
got mind from BH Photo on the past tuesday. And its impossible for me to test in high temp condition because its getting cold in here...

Mine doesn't care what the temperature is, it's always inconsistent.

As CDS said, do we really know that the 1Ds and 1D use the same mirror box? I vaguely recall reading that the 1D mirror is driven up AND DOWN to achieve 10fps; most other cameras are driven up and sprung down.

Part of the delay could have been sourcing a sufficient supply of boxes for the affected part(s) - this will undoubtedly exceed any typical 'repair' quantities (and perhaps this piece isn't often repaired individually).

sam0329 wats ur date code?

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #4153643
As for the 1Ds MkIII
My money would be on that it was initially going to go to production (and may have indeed done so) with the same faulty sub mirror assembly, and as the fix became evident Canon has been working overtime to both get the fix into the new 1Ds before it ships, and to get the new parts into the most recent 1D on the production line... (not to mention make another few thousand to start the ball rolling on the recalls)
Clearly the priority would be to get the new part into the new cameras, thus preventing further recalls.

One other option re: 1Ds though.. historically does the 1Ds and 1D models of the same era have the same mirror assembly? Or does the 1D have a smaller one due to crop factor? Is it at all possible that these two cameras woudl NOT be sharing the same parts here?

I think you make a valid point in your last statement: I always thought that the 1D and the 1Ds had different size sensors, hence it is possible that there are no interchangeable parts between the two, though I stand to be corrected...neverthele​ss, I would not think, with the fps of the 1D, that the 1Ds would be using any of the same parts...

inzite wrote in post #4155065
sam0329 wats ur date code?

I have to look at it tonight when I got home, mind order from BH photo last thur afternoon and arrived here on the pass tue. I was wait for a bit because BH photo was out of stock for while before I order mind.

seems like there are opposing Canon views on what cameras are effected and what is not, I copied some info from DPreview

"Q. Are all EOS-1D Mark III cameras affected?

No, says Westfall. Canon is planning to provide a simple way for EOS-1D Mark III shooters to identify if their camera is among those affected."
direct link here:
http://www.robgalbrait​h.com ….asp?cid=7-8740-9068-9129

... and the other one provided by CNET news stating that Chuck said that Canon doesn't know how to determine which 1D3's are affected:

"Not all cameras are affected, but Canon doesn't know which are or aren't, so anyone having the problem should send the camera in to be repaired, Westfall said. Once it's ready to begin repairs, Canon will publish instructions on how what photographers should do, probably in the next two or three weeks."
direct link here:

http://www.news.com/83​01-13580_3-9799964-39.html

so two quite different quotations, aren't they? Which one is true?

sam0329 wrote in post #4155394
I have to look at it tonight when I got home, mind order from BH photo last Thur afternoon and arrived here on the pass Tue. I was wait for a bit because BH photo was out of stock for while before I order mind.

sam0329 wrote in post #4154144
got mind from BH Photo on the past tuesday. And its impossible for me to test in high temp condition because its getting cold in here...

Hi, I just couldn't let two or three posts of yours go by without asking, is your spellchecker changing the words MINE and MIND? You have a couple of posts with MIND when it appears you wanted to write MINE. Just a heads up in case you didn't notice. Please take this as a compliment that I actually read your posts!

Joe

MaDProFF wrote in post #4156198
seems like there are opposing Canon views on what cameras are effected and what is not, I copied some info from DPreview

"Q. Are all EOS-1D Mark III cameras affected?

No, says Westfall. Canon is planning to provide a simple way for EOS-1D Mark III shooters to identify if their camera is among those affected."
direct link here:
http://www.robgalbrait​h.com ….asp?cid=7-8740-9068-9129

... and the other one provided by CNET news stating that Chuck said that Canon doesn't know how to determine which 1D3's are affected:

"Not all cameras are affected, but Canon doesn't know which are or aren't, so anyone having the problem should send the camera in to be repaired, Westfall said. Once it's ready to begin repairs, Canon will publish instructions on how what photographers should do, probably in the next two or three weeks."
direct link here:

http://www.news.com/83​01-13580_3-9799964-39.html

so two quite different quotations, aren't they? Which one is true?

I would say the RG one is true as the news.com one has not been updated, it say at the bottom of the page (Via Rob Galbraith.)

P.S. I can't wait for Canon to provide us with that simple test to identify which MKIII is bad and which is not:

Cheers

inzite wrote in post #4155065
sam0329 wats ur date code?

ok Made in Japan Oita, Sep. Shipped with Firmware 1.1.0

i see, same as mine, wat about ur serial? 537XXX?

inzite wrote in post #4157058
i see, same as mine, wat about ur serial? 537XXX?

Mind is 534XXX
do you notice any problems? Thx

still testing, 1 shot seems fine, havn't had chance to test out aiservo yet fully but been shooting license plate of moving cars in parking lot and it seems to nail.

It seems even the great Andy Rouse doesn't have AF issues, but has posted about it on his blog. Maybe Canon UK will listen if he's posted about it?

http://www.andyrouse.c​o.uk/blog.asp

Next weeks AP (27th October issue) has an article on the AF issue by Barney Britton...

He had inconsistencies in some situations but found turning the AF sensitivity down and reducing frame rate to 8fps got his keeper rate up... However he has sent his pics to Canon and awaits feedback...... This has now been surpassed with Canon USA saying 1d Mk3's need a hardware fix........ Shame the rest of the Canon world aren't saying much...

kenyc wrote in post #4153578
Dave, I absolutely realized it immediately when my MkIII came back the first time and the repair order said "inspected, cleaned, inspected..." Even before I tested it, I knew they hadn't done anything. Look back in the original thread if you to see my original responses....

KAC

Sorry Kenny - meant to post this last night, but my dialup connection hungup on me with a few minutes to spare, grr...anyways...

I remember reading that particular post Kenny. You weren't the only one to say the same thing either if memory serves me correct.

At least Canon has owned up, albeit having taken far too long to do so. I cannot understand their logic, it's better to be accurate, up front, and timely with your customers as far as I'm concerned. Not doing so, only makes me think what else are they lying about, or not disclosing? Apparently, theres a good number of 400D units where some of the rubber used in the mirror assembly is perishing, and ending up as 'dust' on the sensor. I'm old enough to remember that this was an issue with the EOS 630 unit, and was realised circa 1990. I find it hard to believe that Canon would make the same mistake again, unless they are cost cutting.

Dave