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Destination Weddings? What do or what would you charge for Mexico? Help

 
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Oct 19, 2007 21:11 |  #1

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I have a client interested in getting my pricing on destination wedding for May in Mexico. I have never been to Mexico and would love the experience shooting there so would be willing to do it for less than the norm.

Am I thinking correct or should I be charging more. Frankly the location should not matter and this might make it easier to shoot ---- or harder because I am tied to them for an extended period of time.

I have had out of state clients that reguired travel and tend to charge them more vs less.

What are your thoughts?


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Oct 19, 2007 21:30 |  #2

Destinations are typically more expensive. Not only do you end up shooting more (as you said, you are tied to them more) but the travel time should also be taken into consideration. Those two days you will spend traveling, you COULD be shooting portrait sessions or something like that.

I've priced destinations quite high, as I have found them very exhausting, time consuming, and stressful. They are fun... but if you've just done a long wedding, get on a plane for a day, shoot another wedding, get on a plane for another day to go back, just in time for the next wedding... well... you get the point.

I know it sounds like fun but don't sell yourself short.


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Oct 19, 2007 21:32 |  #3

If it was me, it would be my regular package price plus airfare, meals, accomodations and spending money. If they wanted extended shooting beyond what I would offer at a local wedding, they'd have to pony up the extra $150/hour for that.


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Oct 19, 2007 21:35 |  #4

I agree with Lloyd. There are so many costs or potential costs to consider - and traveling with your equipment might require special baggage etc. and insurance. I've not done one before, but I'd ask PPA if you're a member. I just signed up with them, and they are very helpful.




  
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Oct 19, 2007 21:50 |  #5

i hate flying with gear. You HAVE to stuff it ALL into carry on baggage. You just CANNOT risk your checked bags getting lost or sent to the wrong place. It happens TOO often. Make sure you also have proper insurance. You likely need separate insurance for coverage when you're on the job, and when you're in transit TO the job. If you are in places like Mexico, Jamaica, Domincan etc... then hotel room theft is common so you have to keep a hawk eye on your gear. The rooms usually have safes in them, but nowhere near large enough to hold all your gear. Unfamiliar foods also can wreak havoc on your digestive system, so you gotta be really careful on what you eat... you don't want serious stomach pains while shooting. The humidity there can be absolutely crazy. Your lenses can easily fog up. In addition to my lenses fogging up, I found even my SENSOR fogged up. I've also never had so much dust and dirt get onto my sensor EVER.

There are always expenses you will not think of that will be extra. If you charge just your fee + expenses, they'll add up fast. Quote a flat rate right up front that will comfortably pad your expenses. People really like to know a final price beforehand.

Quite honestly, those weddings are hard work, and very stressful. I much prefer close weddings. The closer to home, the BETTER imo. :)


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Oct 19, 2007 21:53 |  #6

Thanks. I was thinking the same way but would like to add Mexico to my portfolio. It seems lately that everywhere I work leads to a lot of interest and bookings. I may be decent at the photography end but I excell in marketing.
If they have the resources to do a destination wedding the odds are they have the resources to cover all of the details with me.

I am not a PPA member but will look at them. Thanks.


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i hate flying with gear. You HAVE to stuff it ALL into carry on baggage. You just CANNOT risk your checked bags getting lost or sent to the wrong place. It happens TOO often. Make sure you also have proper insurance. You likely need separate insurance for coverage when you're on the job, and when you're in transit TO the job. If you are in places like Mexico, Jamaica, Domincan etc... then hotel room theft is common so you have to keep a hawk eye on your gear. The rooms usually have safes in them, but nowhere near large enough to hold all your gear. Unfamiliar foods also can wreak havoc on your digestive system, so you gotta be really careful on what you eat... you don't want serious stomach pains while shooting. The humidity there can be absolutely crazy. Your lenses can easily fog up. In addition to my lenses fogging up, I found even my SENSOR fogged up. I've also never had so much dust and dirt get onto my sensor EVER.

There are always expenses you will not think of that will be extra. If you charge just your fee + expenses, they'll add up fast. Quote a flat rate right up front that will comfortably pad your expenses. People really like to know a final price beforehand.

Quite honestly, those weddings are hard work, and very stressful. I much prefer close weddings. The closer to home, the BETTER imo. :)

Your right there are TONS of things to think of and take into consideration. I don't mind flying around the US. I can typically run around and do what I need to do and fly out----but Mexico has a whole new what if factor.


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Oct 19, 2007 22:43 |  #8

picturecrazy wrote in post #4157192 (external link)
Destinations are typically more expensive. Not only do you end up shooting more (as you said, you are tied to them more) but the travel time should also be taken into consideration. Those two days you will spend traveling, you COULD be shooting portrait sessions or something like that.

I've priced destinations quite high, as I have found them very exhausting, time consuming, and stressful. They are fun... but if you've just done a long wedding, get on a plane for a day, shoot another wedding, get on a plane for another day to go back, just in time for the next wedding... well... you get the point.

I know it sounds like fun but don't sell yourself short.

You said it very well. Having shot over 90% of our weddings this year as Destinations in one form or another they are MUCH harder on you and you loose MUCH more money not being at home shooting other events while your travelling. Plus with the added nightmare of airports now days it truly can be a pain in your back side.

Make sure you add enough to make up the difference and if you can afford to loose the extra money then go and have fun!

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Oct 20, 2007 14:53 |  #9

I don't mean to scare you but as an ex-citizen of Mexico, If you travel by land into Mexico be very aware of the Mexican Customs. They are the most corrupted rats on the U.S., Mexico border. I have a friend who choose to shoot a wedding in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico. The day before the wedding as he was entering Mexico, he got a red light and was escorted to get his vehicle searched and declare anything he was carrying over $1,000 by the Mexican Customs. To make a very long story short, he was ordered to give up all his photo & Video equipment just because he didn't declare. He easily lost over $7,000 dollars in equipment that day. He tried everything in his power to get his equipment back but they gave him the run-around and eventually threatened to kill him next time he went to the officials. There goes to show you how corrupted these Customs are. Flying is a different story but keep in mind that you have to go through these Rat Customs officials when you land in Mexico. Unless you can fit your equipment on a carry-on bag in the plane and don't let it out of your sight.




  
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I'd charge a minimum of 5K plus travel and three days accommodations with meals. And judging from that last post, I'd probably skip Mexican weddings. ;)



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Oct 20, 2007 16:00 |  #11

For a location shoot like that, in an unscouted location, I'd want a shed load of money. If I were to work in Mexico (personally) I would want a 24-hour bodyguard from my point of entry to my point of departure.


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Oct 20, 2007 22:33 |  #12

rhys wrote in post #4160473 (external link)
For a location shoot like that, in an unscouted location, I'd want a shed load of money. If I were to work in Mexico (personally) I would want a 24-hour bodyguard from my point of entry to my point of departure.

Thank you for the input guys........but heck I am from Detroit (The Murder City) and not that afraid "bad areas"............:D
Actually I think everyone has some great thoughts here........this one might be better off pricing the client out of the job. Too much hair on this one to deal with.
Thanks for the input. Everyone group hug..........come on!


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Oct 20, 2007 23:05 |  #13

$25k. That's what it'd take to get me to do a wedding in Mexico.


Many guys DO get that much. *coughdavidjaycough* :-D


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Oct 20, 2007 23:59 |  #14

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Hey gang!

I have a client interested in getting my pricing on destination wedding for May in Mexico. I have never been to Mexico and would love the experience shooting there so would be willing to do it for less than the norm.

Am I thinking correct or should I be charging more. Frankly the location should not matter and this might make it easier to shoot ---- or harder because I am tied to them for an extended period of time.

I have had out of state clients that reguired travel and tend to charge them more vs less.

What are your thoughts?

You don't say where in Mexico the shoot will be. That could make a big difference, since just like here there are good and bad places to go.

You're pretty safe in the Gringo coastal resort towns, but the cost of staying there will be much more than a normal Mexican city. I'd probably stay away from some of the druggie havens such as Culiacan, Juarez, all of Michoacan, etc. The coastal areas are generally pretty moist, while the Colonial central cities are higher up, and have good climates.


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Ronald S. Jr. wrote in post #4162063 (external link)
$25k. That's what it'd take to get me to do a wedding in Mexico.


Many guys DO get that much. *coughdavidjaycough* :-D

If you ever get that much for a destination wedding, Ronnie, I want to be your second shooter. :D



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