http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos40d/
finally they reviewed this camera fully. now lets see where it stands 
sandro9mm Goldmember  1,718 posts Joined Oct 2005 Location: Italy, Milan More info | Oct 24, 2007 07:46 | #1 http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos40d/ Photography Tips
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Hermeto Cream of the Crop  6,674 posts Likes: 2 Joined Oct 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada More info | Oct 24, 2007 08:57 | #2  Permanent banThanks for sharing, that’s what I was waiting for! What we see depends mainly on what we look for.
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emh01 Member 100 posts Joined Oct 2007 More info | Oct 24, 2007 09:06 | #3 Thanks! But uh-oh... now I want it! Loving the 5D...
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JimG I feel thoroughly satisfied  12,255 posts Likes: 2 Joined Jun 2005 Location: Australia. More info | Oct 24, 2007 09:14 | #4 Awesome! Thanks for sharing, I'll be interested in reading Gear Listhttp://www.codastudios.com.au
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gjl711 Wait.. you can't unkill your own kill.  57,738 posts Likes: 4072 Joined Aug 2006 Location: Deep in the heart of Texas More info | Oct 24, 2007 09:15 | #5 Hmm… pretty much confirmed what I already knew. Not sure why, but call me JJ.
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inzite Member 230 posts Joined Mar 2007 More info | Oct 24, 2007 09:28 | #6 very funny the have a review of 40D up before 1Dm3 haha :P 1D M3, 5D, 35L, 85L, 24-70L, 70-200L, 580EX, 580EXII
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JamieHolladay Cream of the Crop  21,557 posts Likes: 3 Joined Nov 2005 Location: Gadsden, Alabama, USA More info | Oct 24, 2007 09:31 | #7 Cool. The Site
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sadowsk2 Goldmember  1,179 posts Joined Feb 2007 Location: Macomb, MI More info | If I interpreted it correctly, than my earlier personal tests support that the noise performance is no better (actually, slightly worse) than the 30D... 1D Mk IV, 5D Gripped, 30D
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toms Senior Member  434 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2007 Location: croatia, southern europe More info | Oct 24, 2007 09:48 | #9 sadowsk2 wrote in post #4182539 If I interpreted it correctly, than my earlier personal tests support that the noise performance is no better (actually, slightly worse) than the 30D... it's because 30d (and 350d) has higher sensitivity than indicated. Using: Canon 70d, Canon 50d, 135 2 USM L, 50 1.8, Sigma 10 2.8 HSM EX fisheye, Sigma 180 2.8 AP✿ macr✿, Sigma 18-35 1.8 ART, Nikon D5500
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GyRob Cream of the Crop 10,206 posts Likes: 1413 Joined Feb 2005 Location: N.E.LINCOLNSHIRE UK. More info | Oct 24, 2007 10:14 | #10 inzite wrote in post #4182468 very funny the have a review of 40D up before 1Dm3 haha :P lol that was my first thought but as i own a broken mk3 i can understand why "The LensMaster Gimbal"
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aLFaDaRK Senior Member  751 posts Joined Oct 2006 More info | Oct 24, 2007 10:35 | #11 sadowsk2 wrote in post #4182539 If I interpreted it correctly, than my earlier personal tests support that the noise performance is no better (actually, slightly worse) than the 30D... Same size sensor + more megapixels = more pixel density + less detail + more noise Canon EOS 5D Mark III, Canon Speedlite 580EX II
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Jon Cream of the Crop  69,628 posts Likes: 227 Joined Jun 2004 Location: Bethesda, MD USA More info | Oct 24, 2007 10:42 | #12 aLFaDaRK wrote in post #4182780 Same size sensor + more megapixels = more pixel density + less detail + more noise I figure the 5D will have the best overall noise performance for any digital SLR even after the 5D successor is released, because it will likely have more megapixels than the 5D, giving it slightly worse noise performance. Where do you get less detail from more pixels? More pixels allow capture of finer detail. Granted, the difference is less than 10%, but it is there. Jon
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Oct 24, 2007 10:44 | #13 sadowsk2 wrote in post #4182539 If I interpreted it correctly, than my earlier personal tests support that the noise performance is no better (actually, slightly worse) than the 30D... I believe you are correct, unless one turns High Speed Noise Reduction on (C.Fn II-2), which seems to drop it below the 30D at all ISO's. MIKEIVAN
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aLFaDaRK Senior Member 751 posts Joined Oct 2006 More info | Oct 24, 2007 10:49 | #14 More pixels in the same amount of area means smaller pixels on the sensor, which means the camera has to invent more pixels on its own because it's not getting as much detail from the smaller pixels, meaning more noise. Canon EOS 5D Mark III, Canon Speedlite 580EX II
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KarlMarsh Living in a Marshist regime  426 posts Joined May 2007 Location: Omaha Nebraksa More info | I just read the whole thing. They basically say that all the new features are very nice and an improvement over the 30D but they also say If anything the EOS 40D looks slightly less crisp 'per pixel' than the EOS 30D and there is less detail in the high ISO shots than the 30d due to in camera noise reduction. I dont own a 40d (yet) but can't you turn off the in camera noise reduction? According to the review you can only turn off the 'High ISO speed noise reduction' option but basic noise reduction is always on. This really sucks because it is almost like shooting JPEG instead of raw with a loss of detail that can't be recovered. Karl
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