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Oct 26, 2007 12:20 as a reply to  @ post 4196300 |  #16
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I've shot air shows with both the 100-400mm and the 400mm f/2.8.

Hands down, the 100-400mm was the better choice due, primarily, to the zoom capability...


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Oct 26, 2007 12:20 |  #17

thebigphil wrote in post #4195982 (external link)
Wow Mike!

I loved the shots - especially the one of the F-16 going through the shock cloud (2007_10_06__MG_4026_W​eb.jpg)! :cool:

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Thanks Phil. I have some more with the shock cloud but I haven't had the chance to process them yet. Check back tomorrow as I might have some more up after tonight.

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That may be the case on a 1.6 crop body but what about a 1.3 or full frame?;)

100-400 is effectively a 160-640 on a 1.6x crop.
500 is effectively a 650 on a 1.3x crop.

Yeah, I still think the 100-400 is a much more versatile lens for an air show.


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Oct 26, 2007 12:22 as a reply to  @ post 4196300 |  #18

300 prime and 1.3 crop body.


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Oct 26, 2007 12:25 |  #19

malla1962 wrote in post #4196329 (external link)
300 prime and 1.3 crop body.

Very nice indeed malla1962. Of course, distance to the subject is a factor as well.


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Oct 26, 2007 12:32 as a reply to  @ TMR Design's post |  #20

malla1962... Excellent shots, tack sharp...
In2Photos... Also excellent...
I still think the 300 prime has the edge and you can always use 1.4x and 2x TC's to alter the focal length... :)


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Oct 26, 2007 12:37 |  #21

Kennymc wrote in post #4196376 (external link)
malla1962... Excellent shots, tack sharp...
In2Photos... Also excellent...
I still think the 300 prime has the edge and you can always use 1.4x and 2x TC's to alter the focal length... :)

The 300 prime is all I will use at airshows, I used to use a 20d and 100-400 and don't miss the loss of length.


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Oct 26, 2007 12:38 |  #22

malla1962 wrote in post #4196329 (external link)
300 prime and 1.3 crop body.

I see we had similar skies. :) The day of th eshow at Pope it was overcast all day until the Thunderbirds started up. The skies seemed to part just for them.

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In2Photos... Also excellent...

Thanks!


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Oct 26, 2007 12:56 as a reply to  @ In2Photos's post |  #23

2 more with the 300,no its not as versatile as a zoom but I doo find that the 300 will focus and get the shot while the zoom is still thinking about it.


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Oct 26, 2007 19:48 |  #24

Thanks every one for their input. Maybe this thread will serve someone else down the line. You have all posted shots to be proud of and I really appreciate from those that know this genre. In this instance I am a little outside mine but am confident I can pull this off.

It looks as if the one lens ( 300 2.8 ) folks are getting the shots I want is with the next lens on my wish list. Probably will go with the 1-4 next weekend.

Malla, I would be jumping for joy if I got one like the one posted above.

Anyone for some tech tips ?




  
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Oct 26, 2007 22:45 as a reply to  @ post 4196300 |  #25

Airshows are different...

Some airshows have the runways and the flight operations areas relatively close to the spectators and some airshows are waaaaaay off in the distance.

I visited an airshow at the Naval Air Station Patuxent River, Maryland many years ago. All of the activity was relatively close to the spectators. The air clarity was also very good. This made a good combination for shooting and I was able to get some very good imagery with a full frame 35mm film camera and a 200mm lens.

On the opposite end of the spectrum is the air show held at the Marine Corps Air Station (formerly Naval Air Station) Miramar, near San Diego, CA. All of the activities occur at relatively long distances from the spectators.

When I visited that airshow earlier this month, I decided to be lazy and to just carry my 70-200mm f/4L IS lens with a 1.4x TC. This would allow me to forgo the use of a tripod. I regretted that decision and wished that I had brought my 400mm f/5.6L and my tripod.

Even sitting in the very front row of spectators seating, the 280mm maximum focal length was really too short for a lot of shooting.

The lighting direction and air clarity was pretty crappy also. However, the air clarity was heck of a lot better than it is today with the smoky aftermath of Firestorm 2007.


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Oct 27, 2007 03:41 |  #26

rang wrote in post #4195958 (external link)
Hi, are you from SD, CA?
Where abouts were you? There was a group of us shooting just west of the last chalet in the "blanket" area.
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Sorry, I went to the SF, CA show. Nice weather, but SF's always kinda hazy...

Here's my contribution.


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Oct 31, 2007 15:00 |  #27

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Sorry, I went to the SF, CA show. Nice weather, but SF's always kinda hazy...

Here's my contribution.

Nice shot with the GG Bridge in the background!
This year Miramar did not have the Angels. The Thuderbirds flew instead.
I have to say...they were good. However I think the Angels are better.
Seems like the Angels flew for longer and did more stuff.

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Oct 31, 2007 15:04 |  #28

mxwphoto wrote in post #4199987 (external link)
Sorry, I went to the SF, CA show. Nice weather, but SF's always kinda hazy...

Here's my contribution.

Ahh the Navy Blue Angels. 2 years ago in Atlantic City both the Tunderbirds and Blue Angels were there. It was pretty spectacular.


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Nov 10, 2007 16:11 as a reply to  @ TMR Design's post |  #29

Here's a couple I took with the 400 5.6. Great for single jets but no good for formations...

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Nov 10, 2007 20:46 |  #30

I would the 400 2.8IS would be good. Or if you want to save a bit I would suggest you get a 70-200 and put a 2x converter but only at 5.6 aperture with a 1.6 body.


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