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Oct 26, 2007 15:01 |  #16

I have read and read and read stories of people receiving the dreaded Error 99 on their camera. Never have I had this happen ... until 10 minutes into one of my weddings. Great timing right! Thankfully I had my backup with me. As it turned out, there must have been a short somewhere between my camera and battery grip. I had an opportunity early into the day to take my grip off, and then it worked perfectly.

Lesson: ALWAYS have a backup of everything when shooting an event that's as important as a wedding and/or an event that you can't reproduce at a later date.

It WILL happen!


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Oct 26, 2007 18:16 |  #17

Despite all the hype, sometimes you just don't have enough money to purchase an entire second body backup, but you are artistic enough that someone wants to hire you. Most will say, don't dare step into that ring.

I have shot 5 weddings with one camera body and have not had it fail. Just my experience though.


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Oct 26, 2007 19:20 |  #18
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Nicole Faith wrote in post #4198055 (external link)
I have shot 5 weddings with one camera body and have not had it fail. Just my experience though.

I wonder what your experience would have been like if your one camera had failed ? pretty crappy I should imagine anda good way to kill your business before you get going.

Borrow, hire, buy cheap second hand .. there so many ways to do it even on a really tight budget, anyone who is shooting with one body is playing russian roulette with their bride and grooms wedding day memories.


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Oct 26, 2007 20:25 |  #19
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My 20D kept giving me Error 99, so I upgraded to the 40D. I'll probably either add a second one of those in the spring or the successor to the 5D. It's very important to have backups of everything, as wedding photography is a very litigious field.



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Oct 26, 2007 22:21 |  #20

While not complete failures, I've had my XT suddenly go stupid TWICE during paid events! Wouldn't respond to any dial manipulation or button actuation. Fortunately, both times were not critical and my partner was able to cover with no one the wiser. Each time the XT was fine after simply removing the battery and re-installing the same. No harm done. OK, so I've had issues but none the worse for wear when it was all done, RIGHT?

However, had my XT's stupid act occured during the processional/recession​al or (you can fill in the blank), my story would have been different. During both occurrences, I lost valuable time and oppotunities.

Yes, things happen.

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Oct 26, 2007 22:46 |  #21

I am guilty (and lucky). I have shot the last 5 weddings with one body. And I must say, I showed up at each one of them scared to death and praying "please don't let my gear fail me". Well, no more! Before I take on another wedding, I will be purchasing a 40D + 580EX II as my primary gear and shifting my 30D + 580EX as backup gear. This will also allow me to have 2 bodies with separate lenses attached, ready to capture wide angle and telephoto shots immediately. For those who continue to roll the dice with one body, one flash, etc., it's just a matter of time before you crap out.


  
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Oct 26, 2007 22:52 |  #22

Nicole Faith wrote in post #4198055 (external link)
Despite all the hype, sometimes you just don't have enough money to purchase an entire second body backup, but you are artistic enough that someone wants to hire you. Most will say, don't dare step into that ring.

I have shot 5 weddings with one camera body and have not had it fail. Just my experience though.

Wow, I admire your faith and ambition...but I hope you never have a lawyer (or their friends/relatives/etc.​) for a client. You may be the MOST AMAZING photographer in the world. That will mean absolutely nothing when your camera fails and you have nothing to provide to the bride and groom. I'm not even sure errors & omissions insurance would cover you in that type of situation as you haven't taken the most basic precautions to protect yourself.

Yes, I'm deliberately being harsh--though I've edited this post for nearly a hour to tone it down. But it's not "hype" to be a responsible business person. I couldn't afford the gear nor the insurance nor the taxes I needed to do the job right, so I waited, scrimped, saved, and borrowed & rented when necessary until getting what I needed was possible. That also meant second shooting when I knew I was more than capable of handling a wedding on my own, simply because I was not about to be so irresponsible as to risk letting down a paying client with my lack of gear.

For the record, both 20Ds have failed on me at different times, including in the middle of a ceremony. The one is going in to Canon for service. My primary is now a 40D that I'm having to make payments on 6 months earlier than I'd planned to upgrade....but the "good" 20D still comes with me on EVERY paid gig, even portrait sessions, where it's a serious PITA to carry a second body. And guess what? The 40D threw me a curve on the last one of those--a quick fix, but not one I had time for during that part of the session.

I've had bum CF cards, lenses that wouldn't autofocus, batteries go dead, flashes that wouldn't work. Most of these problems, yes, were actually minor issues--contacts that needed cleaning, switches that were nudged, etc. But the reality is that in the heat of a wedding, there are lots of times that you don't have time to troubleshoot. Having duplicates is simply not something you can afford to ignore as a paid photographer.

All of you who want to take the risk--well, I wish you luck. :lol: May your fragile electronics never fail you!


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Oct 26, 2007 23:05 |  #23

Nicole Faith wrote in post #4198055 (external link)
Despite all the hype, sometimes you just don't have enough money to purchase an entire second body backup, but you are artistic enough that someone wants to hire you. Most will say, don't dare step into that ring.

If you're THAT artistic, you can charge enough to buy a backup with the deposit.

Nicole Faith wrote in post #4198055 (external link)
I have shot 5 weddings with one camera body and have not had it fail. Just my experience though.

5 weddings later you can easily afford a backup body.


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Oct 27, 2007 13:19 |  #24

Hmm I once heard that shoot with one set of anything was like playing Russian roulette.... I've had a camera fail on me when the shutter died, I was in the middle of a shoot as well!

It can and does happen, as Clint Eastwood said "Do you feel lucky punk?"


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Oct 28, 2007 16:17 |  #25

amironsi wrote in post #4195785 (external link)
Every body is talking about stealing or borrowing or even killing for a second body in case the primary body fails.

Tell me how many times did your primary body fail and what happened and why do you think it failed??

shutter failure (taking too many pictures ;) )

err99's (battery grip, lens? - after using my backup i checked the camera when things were a little slow during the day and replaced the batteries, lens etc and the camera started shooting again)


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Oct 28, 2007 16:21 |  #26

amironsi wrote in post #4195785 (external link)
Every body is talking about stealing or borrowing or even killing for a second body in case the primary body fails.

Tell me how many times did your primary body fail and what happened and why do you think it failed??

I've had two die, and both times it was the only one i had with me.
10D shutter failed (only DSLR I had at the time, 4 years ago) and MkIII just went all pear shaped.. still works, but it's not right.


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Oct 28, 2007 16:34 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #27

I plan to shoot weddings in the near future but not until I get a second body. It's just not worth taking a risk, as mentioned in other posts your reputation will be shot & you ruin the couples day. I will even take my film body as a third backup.




  
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Oct 28, 2007 16:49 |  #28

I just shot a wedding yesterday, as a second shooter.

Here's what we brought:

Two 40D's
One 350XT

1 17-55L
1 70-200L
1 24-70 Sigma

~ 20 1 Gig CF cards
4 580EX II's (One was used as a radio slave most of the time). We did have one 580 fail during this wedding, so our backup came in handy.
12 sets of AA flash batteries. Apparently several sets of the batteries did not have a full charge. When we left I think we had 3 charged sets remaining.
6 sets (12 total) camera batteries. We were using battery grips, and neither one of us ever came close to changing out our camera batteries.

Basically, we had backups of everything. In a pinch, if two cameras failed (not likely), then the show could go on with one camera.

This was a 12 hour wedding btw.


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Oct 28, 2007 19:17 |  #29
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This is what me and my partner take to every wedding

4 x 30D (4 grips)
1 x 20D
2 x 17-55 F2.8 IS
2 x 70-200 L (one F4 one 2.8IS)
1 x 10-22
1 x 8mm Fisheye
1 x 30mm F1.4
1 x 50mm F1.4
1 x 100mm Macro
1 x 17-85 IS (never needed it but we take it just in case)
2 x 430EX
2 x 580EX
Ton of batteries, 60Gb of CF cards, lightstands, tripods, reflectors/diffusers, rugs, etc etc
2 x mac book pros
2 x selphy 720's

being properly geared up for weddings aint cheap, we will probably add some remote triggers or additional flashes this year and a few other bits we have our eyes on.


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Oct 28, 2007 20:58 |  #30

amironsi wrote in post #4195785 (external link)
Tell me how many times did your primary body fail and what happened and why do you think it failed??

I used to have two 20D bodies. One failed at 11am, one failed at 1am during the ceremony. I got one going again with a prime and only missed one shot. I think the cause was me cleaning the lens contacts with eclipse, which is a bad idea apparently.

Backups are essential. I'll get a 40D some time, so i'll shoot with that and the 30D, and use the 20D as backup.


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